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The "Doctor" will see you now.

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #4

    Ahhhh….

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #5

      What category does the shoe magnet fall in?

      The Brad

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        The clinic has a couple of MDs and a DO or two.

        Of course, a chiropractor a naprapath and a naturopath.

        Not to be missed is the one in charge of Shamanic Healing.

        "Doctor" Neumann also gives therapy for "Immune support," whatever the hell that is.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Shamanic healing? Really? Is Dr. Neuman a shaman? Or just a sham?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • CopperC Offline
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            #8

            https://wholehealthchicago.com/about/jordan-neumann

            Jordan Neumann is a Board-Certified Family Nurse Practitioner who graduated with her Doctorate of Nursing Practice from Rush University this spring.

            I don't see any indication exactly which spring that is.

            Conditions Treated
            .Allergies and food sensitivities
            .Candida and parasite issues
            .Chronic lyme disease
            .Fibromyalgia
            .Chronic fatigue
            .Thyroid, adrenal and sex hormone issues
            .Weight management
            .Women’s health
            .Men’s health
            .Peptide therapy
            .Infusion and injection therapy
            .Immune support
            .Nutritional support

            Are those all "conditions"?

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              #9

              Fibromyalgia

              Is there even such a thing?

              Anyone I’ve ever met who said they “suffered” from it and maintained it was “chronic”’also hated their jobs and maximised any sickness and short and long term disability benefits they had. At the same time they all complained that their doctors couldn’t find anything physically wrong with them after exhaustive tests. Some MDs even told them it was all in their heads and sent them on their way.

              Elbows up!

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #10

                It's another way of saying chronic fatigue syndrome.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  Fibromyalgia

                  Is there even such a thing?

                  Anyone I’ve ever met who said they “suffered” from it and maintained it was “chronic”’also hated their jobs and maximised any sickness and short and long term disability benefits they had. At the same time they all complained that their doctors couldn’t find anything physically wrong with them after exhaustive tests. Some MDs even told them it was all in their heads and sent them on their way.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @Renauda said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                  Fibromyalgia

                  Is there even such a thing?

                  Anyone I’ve ever met who said they “suffered” from it and maintained it was “chronic”’also hated their jobs and maximised any sickness and short and long term disability benefits they had. At the same time they all complained that their doctors couldn’t find anything physically wrong with them after exhaustive tests. Some MDs even told them it was all in their heads and sent them on their way.

                  We'd see at least one fibromyalgia sufferer come to the OR every two months.

                  Common features:

                  • Age - late 20s to mid 40s.
                  • Gender - XX chromosome carriers (yeah, I said that)
                  • Marital status - married
                  • Suburban - almost never saw this when I worked downtown
                  • Generally a "miserable-looking" person.

                  I've seen some work that suggests that fibromyalgia has an organic cause - but these studies are sporadic and never verifiable.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Renauda said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                    Fibromyalgia

                    Is there even such a thing?

                    Anyone I’ve ever met who said they “suffered” from it and maintained it was “chronic”’also hated their jobs and maximised any sickness and short and long term disability benefits they had. At the same time they all complained that their doctors couldn’t find anything physically wrong with them after exhaustive tests. Some MDs even told them it was all in their heads and sent them on their way.

                    We'd see at least one fibromyalgia sufferer come to the OR every two months.

                    Common features:

                    • Age - late 20s to mid 40s.
                    • Gender - XX chromosome carriers (yeah, I said that)
                    • Marital status - married
                    • Suburban - almost never saw this when I worked downtown
                    • Generally a "miserable-looking" person.

                    I've seen some work that suggests that fibromyalgia has an organic cause - but these studies are sporadic and never verifiable.

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                    @George-K said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                    Gender - XX chromosome carriers

                    Fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS) is a chronic musculoskeletal disorder of unknown etiology that affects up to 5.0% of the world population. It has a high female predominance, between 80 and 96%. Due to the low number of diagnosed men, research work has focused mainly on women.

                    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9859454/#:~:text=Fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS) is a,has focused mainly on women.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #13

                      Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 8.27.02 AM.png

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #14

                        How long is the FNP program and what kind of work happens during it? There might only be 6 days of classroom instruction but is there a mentorship program working with physicians in their current workplace?

                        The Brad

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                          Horace
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                          #15

                          I’ve seen two NPs lately. I’m more concerned with their experience and general cognitive ability than their formal education. On average, NPs might be less than MDs in those areas, but any given NP might be good.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            My NP is a shitload better than all the doctors at the practice.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              image.jpeg

                              I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

                              https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

                              Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                I think there’s a very important place for NPs. As our knowledge grows in so many fields of medicine, there’s been a greater need for specialization. As that continues to grow, so has the need to have more skilled service providers between the traditional nurse and specialist, but more and more autonomy and responsibility is being thrust upon these roles without subsequent education and training requirements.

                                The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  I also worry that while NPs get a lot of the technical training necessary for the roles, they receive less of the ethical and moral training that comes with the years of schooling.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    image.jpeg

                                    I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

                                    https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

                                    Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

                                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @George-K said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                                    image.jpeg

                                    I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

                                    https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

                                    Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

                                    44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @George-K said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                                      image.jpeg

                                      I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

                                      https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

                                      Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

                                      44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                                      44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

                                      No idea what it's like now.

                                      But, I can tell you my curriculum from the dark ages.

                                      Gross Anatomy: 3 quarters.
                                      Neuro Anatomy: 1 quarter
                                      Biochemistry: 2 quarter
                                      Micro Anatomy (Histology): 2 quarters
                                      Pharmacology: 2 quarters
                                      Anatomy Lab (cadaver): 3 Quarters
                                      Physiology: 3 Quarters
                                      Psychology: 1 Quarter
                                      Physical Diagnosis: 1 quarter

                                      And then...you got to touch patients.

                                      Physical Diagnosis on real people: 2 quarters.

                                      And then you got to work in a hospital.

                                      Internal Medicine: 1 quarter (12 weeks) - you 'shadow' an intern
                                      Neurology: 6 weeks
                                      Psychiatry: 6 weeks
                                      Surgery: 12 weeks (1 week to anesthesiology)
                                      OB/GYN: 6 weeks
                                      Pets: 6 weeks.

                                      Then, you go to do electives, and internal medicine as a senior was required.
                                      I did 12 weeks of anesthesiology.

                                      I may have missed something, but that's the gist of it.

                                      I don't feel like wading through the current curriculum, but here it is:

                                      https://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/md-education/curriculum/phases/index.html

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        image.jpeg

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          I’ll be seeing an NP at 4. Three weeks for this cough and drainage. Ugh.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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