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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
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    #1

    A bit late, but he does seem to have some remorse.

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/alabama-murderer-gives-up-appeals-and-asks-to-be-executed-so-that-victims-families-have-justice/5291696/

    “Now it’s time for the victims and their families to get the justice they rightly deserve to start the closure,” he said during a telephone interview from William C. Holman Correctional Facility in Atmore, Alabama.

    Dearman said he has not yet told the victims’ kin of his decision, but he intends to write them letters as well.

    “I have laid many nights thinking, what would I say to any of them if I ever had the chance, the opportunity to say something?” he said. “That’s part of the reason I’ve made my decision to have my sentence carried out. Words don’t have any weight in this situation. The only thing I would say is that everyone that was hurt by the actions to forgive me, not for myself, but for them. That way, they will free their heart up to be able to truly heal.”

    and

    Dearman said he surrendered to the Leakesville police when he had come down from his high and realized what he’d done.

    “I am guilty plain and simple, I turned myself in and I pled guilty,” said Dearman. “Once I got moved over to county and spent a week down there, sleeping every day, my mind coming back to me a little bit more, little bit more, little bit more, I was just in shock. I couldn’t comprehend the magnitude of what had happened because those people were good people.”

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #2

      I respect that. Kill him humanely and be done with it.

      And may God have Mercy on him.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #3

        The death penalty has outlived it's usefulness, at least in it's current form. I could see keeping it on the books for terrorists and treason, and those that are truly irredeemable, but not for cases like this. This guy needs to spend life in prison, but killing him is to no good effect.

        The Brad

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          You hate the man that much?

          More humane to kill him, than to let him suffer.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Not at all. A life can be lived in prison. Good can be accomplished. Especially for somebody truly remorseful, as this guy appears to be.

            I suppose the Romans should have just beheaded Paul and been done with it?

            The Brad

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #6

              Kill him before some politician in need of votes lets him go free.

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                Not at all. A life can be lived in prison. Good can be accomplished. Especially for somebody truly remorseful, as this guy appears to be.

                I suppose the Romans should have just beheaded Paul and been done with it?

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @LuFins-Dad said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                Not at all. A life can be lived in prison. Good can be accomplished. Especially for somebody truly remorseful, as this guy appears to be.

                I suppose the Romans should have just beheaded Paul and been done with it?

                Paul was imprisoned twice in Rome, as you know. Once, under house arrest. He still provided his own meals during that confinement, though. The second imprisonment location is unknown, but it certainly was in a Roman prison. That meant probably underground, possibly chained.

                It's not known for sure, but because he was a Roman citizen, Paul was probably beheaded when he was executed. In that day and time, that would have been considered a humane death, far superior to starving to death while chained underground.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Not at all. A life can be lived in prison. Good can be accomplished. Especially for somebody truly remorseful, as this guy appears to be.

                  I suppose the Romans should have just beheaded Paul and been done with it?

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                  #8

                  @LuFins-Dad said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                  Not at all. A life can be lived in prison. Good can be accomplished. Especially for somebody truly remorseful, as this guy appears to be.

                  I suppose the Romans should have just beheaded Paul and been done with it?

                  I've been on The Farm a lot. Used to go through the gates at least once a month. For many of the cons, it ain't much life, especially those on Death Row.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    I dont think the death penalty is a good thing because:

                    1. it is not a deterrent
                    2. if it does happen, it takes so so long
                    3. the cost to keep a death row prisoner is super super high (guards:prisoner ratio, lawyers, appeals, etc etc.)

                    As @jolly said, being in prison for the rest of your life is not much of a life. That is punishment enough for me.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      I dont think the death penalty is a good thing because:

                      1. it is not a deterrent
                      2. if it does happen, it takes so so long
                      3. the cost to keep a death row prisoner is super super high (guards:prisoner ratio, lawyers, appeals, etc etc.)

                      As @jolly said, being in prison for the rest of your life is not much of a life. That is punishment enough for me.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                      it is not a deterrent

                      I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                      Death is the final deterrent.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                        it is not a deterrent

                        I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                        Death is the final deterrent.

                        AxtremusA Offline
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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                        Death is the final deterrent.

                        Apply that to mass execution and you deter the entire world!
                        Well, that’s maybe what Y was thinking right before flooding the world for 40 days.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
                          JollyJ Offline
                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          Next time will be with fire.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                            it is not a deterrent

                            I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                            Death is the final deterrent.

                            taiwan_girlT Offline
                            taiwan_girlT Offline
                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                            @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                            it is not a deterrent

                            I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                            Death is the final deterrent.

                            LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                            (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                              @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                              it is not a deterrent

                              I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                              Death is the final deterrent.

                              LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                              (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                              @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                              @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                              it is not a deterrent

                              I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                              Death is the final deterrent.

                              LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                              (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

                              Bullets are fifty cents. Rope is reusable.

                              Less humane, but we've killed many a cow with a sledgehammer. Also reusable.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                it is not a deterrent

                                I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                                Death is the final deterrent.

                                LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                                (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

                                Bullets are fifty cents. Rope is reusable.

                                Less humane, but we've killed many a cow with a sledgehammer. Also reusable.

                                taiwan_girlT Offline
                                taiwan_girlT Offline
                                taiwan_girl
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                                #15

                                @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                it is not a deterrent

                                I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                                Death is the final deterrent.

                                LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                                (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

                                Bullets are fifty cents. Rope is reusable.

                                Less humane, but we've killed many a cow with a sledgehammer. Also reusable.

                                LOL But that is after 20 years or so. Before then, teams of lawyers filing appeals. Probably more than one guard per death row prisoner, etc.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  it is not a deterrent

                                  I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                                  Death is the final deterrent.

                                  LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                                  (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

                                  Bullets are fifty cents. Rope is reusable.

                                  Less humane, but we've killed many a cow with a sledgehammer. Also reusable.

                                  LOL But that is after 20 years or so. Before then, teams of lawyers filing appeals. Probably more than one guard per death row prisoner, etc.

                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                  it is not a deterrent

                                  I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                                  Death is the final deterrent.

                                  LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                                  (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

                                  Bullets are fifty cents. Rope is reusable.

                                  Less humane, but we've killed many a cow with a sledgehammer. Also reusable.

                                  LOL But that is after 20 years or so. Before then, teams of lawyers filing appeals. Probably more than one guard per death row prisoner, etc.

                                  That's a whole nuther problem.

                                  I have no problem with the death penalty. But when we use it, guilt should be assured.

                                  If guilt can be determined with a very, very high degree of certainty, appeals should few and succinct, with a loss of appeals followed with a swift execution

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                    @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                    @Jolly said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in A Killer Stops Appeals - Asks for Execution:

                                    it is not a deterrent

                                    I promise you, if you execute somebody, they will never harm another person.

                                    Death is the final deterrent.

                                    LOL True, but I think life in prison with no release will do the same thing at a much lower cost.

                                    (But I think you know that I meant a deterrent to other people. 555)

                                    Bullets are fifty cents. Rope is reusable.

                                    Less humane, but we've killed many a cow with a sledgehammer. Also reusable.

                                    LOL But that is after 20 years or so. Before then, teams of lawyers filing appeals. Probably more than one guard per death row prisoner, etc.

                                    That's a whole nuther problem.

                                    I have no problem with the death penalty. But when we use it, guilt should be assured.

                                    If guilt can be determined with a very, very high degree of certainty, appeals should few and succinct, with a loss of appeals followed with a swift execution

                                    taiwan_girlT Offline
                                    taiwan_girlT Offline
                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Jolly Agree

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                                      George K
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                                      #18

                                      Death penalty for fraud:

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/business/truong-my-lan-vietnam-fraud-death-sentence/index.html

                                      A court in Vietnam sentenced real estate tycoon Truong My Lan Thursday to death over her role in a 304 trillion dong ($12.46 billion) financial fraud case, the country’s biggest on record, state media reported.

                                      At the end of a trial in Vietnam’s business hub Ho Chi Minh City, the chairwoman of real estate developer Van Thinh Phat Holdings Group was found guilty of embezzlement, bribery and violations of banking rules, state media reports said.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        There are too many cases where 20 years later the conviction gets overturned.

                                        As for the costs, most of that is bull. Let’s say it costs $100,000,000 to run a prison that holds 1,000 men. That breaks down to $100,000 per prisoner. So you can point to the death row inmate and say he’s costing the state $100,000 per year. Sounds good, but it’s bullshit. If the guy was executed, they would still be spending the $100,000,000.

                                        The Brad

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                                          We're just not good enough to deprive people of their lives.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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