The Right to Disconnect
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I find this interesting...
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It is, but I wonder in a lot of cases if it will be invoked by the employees. Well intentioned but impracticable. The kind of job this usually happens in, well, career suicide.
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It is, but I wonder in a lot of cases if it will be invoked by the employees. Well intentioned but impracticable. The kind of job this usually happens in, well, career suicide.
@Mik said in The Right to Disconnect:
It is, but I wonder in a lot of cases if it will be invoked by the employees. Well intentioned but impracticable. The kind of job this usually happens in, well, career suicide.
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful. Of the total industries who engage in these practices, only in a small fraction is it actually necessary.
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@Mik said in The Right to Disconnect:
It is, but I wonder in a lot of cases if it will be invoked by the employees. Well intentioned but impracticable. The kind of job this usually happens in, well, career suicide.
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful. Of the total industries who engage in these practices, only in a small fraction is it actually necessary.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.
I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.
Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.
I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.
Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."
@George-K said in The Right to Disconnect:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.
I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.
Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."
Of course. That happens today. But it's still better than being given a bogus PIP and subsequently fired for "not being a team player."
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Well, I can't speak for the rest of you but I'm every bit as dedicated to work in my own time as I am during office hours.
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I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.
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I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:
I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
Yep. I think most people in any responsible position understand when off hours work is necessary and when not.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:
I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
Yep. I think most people in any responsible position understand when off hours work is necessary and when not.
@Mik said in The Right to Disconnect:
@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:
I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
Yep. I think most people in any responsible position
There's your problem, right there. I think you greatly overestimate the reason a shitload of people have out there. Overstepping by insecure managers is a big fucking problem. Always has been, but now they can get you at home, too.
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I rather enjoy the rare times we're doing something urgent and need to do something at an odd hour. But it's rare enough that I can enjoy it.
@Horace said in The Right to Disconnect:
I rather enjoy the rare times we're doing something urgent and need to do something at an odd hour. But it's rare enough that I can enjoy it.
At one of my previous jobs, there was a kind of bet every July about who would be the first to have a mental breakdown. The winner was awarded free beer for the night the next time we were all able to go out. Which was in August. I consider that and plenty of other incidents sufficiently fucked up that I welcome some form of regulation to limit work intrusion into home life.
