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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    Canva, an online design collaboration platform, is buying Affinity, a traditional software development house that creates good applications and sells them to you.

    Right now you can buy the entire Affinity suite - photo editing, design, and publishing apps for Windows, Mac, and iOS - for around $120.

    Not per year; once.

    https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
      Aqua LetiferA Offline
      Aqua Letifer
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      #2

      Second-tier Adobe.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        Second-tier Adobe.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

        Second-tier Adobe.

        Second-tier non-subscription Adobe.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          All tools. It depends on whether it does what you want done.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • George KG George K

            @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

            Second-tier Adobe.

            Second-tier non-subscription Adobe.

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @George-K said in "Canva":

            @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

            Second-tier Adobe.

            Second-tier non-subscription Adobe.

            So?

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @George-K said in "Canva":

              @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

              Second-tier Adobe.

              Second-tier non-subscription Adobe.

              So?

              George KG Offline
              George KG Offline
              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

              @George-K said in "Canva":

              @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

              Second-tier Adobe.

              Second-tier non-subscription Adobe.

              So?

              Subscription software just pisses me off.

              It's a 1980s thing for me...once bought, I don't want to keep buying it until it stops doing what I want it to.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

              Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
              • George KG George K

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

                @George-K said in "Canva":

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

                Second-tier Adobe.

                Second-tier non-subscription Adobe.

                So?

                Subscription software just pisses me off.

                It's a 1980s thing for me...once bought, I don't want to keep buying it until it stops doing what I want it to.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @George-K said in "Canva":

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

                @George-K said in "Canva":

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

                Second-tier Adobe.

                Second-tier non-subscription Adobe.

                So?

                Subscription software just pisses me off.

                It's a 1980s thing for me...once bought, I don't want to keep buying it until it stops doing what I want it to.

                You don't use Adobe software for work.

                1. For one, it's companies who pay the subscription, not the employees.
                2. Unless you're a freelancer, in which case what you probably do is buy specialized software instead. Illustrator? You probably use Procreate. Photographer? You either use Capture One or Adobe's photography bundle, which is like $19 a month. I'm one of the few weirdos who pay for Creative Cloud out of pocket.
                3. But I don't mind doing it because you're not paying monthly for the privilege of using the software. They roll out a LOT of new shit, every month. I'd be terribly behind if I bought the stuff and was locked down to that version every couple of years. For example, they dropped creative cloud file storage because they need their servers for Firefly. That kind of computing is NOT cheap in terms of resources, so, yeah, you gotta pay. (And I'll happily do so because Firefly is currently the only commercially viable AI system out there who is at least making a half-ass attempt at not ripping off writers and artists.)

                Affinity's fine for what it does, but it's not some kind of "more ethical Adobe" because they don't charge monthly. The software and the businesses are very different.

                Please love yourself.

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                • markM Offline
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                  mark
                  wrote on last edited by mark
                  #8

                  We are moving our software to an annual subscription pricing model. It allows single user agencies to afford it, and it scales very well financially for us, as the user count increases. I would much rather have 100, $2,000 customers vs one $200,000 customer.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #9

                    We dropped Adobe full version at work and adopted Foxit pdf editor instead as the license is quite a bit cheaper. It's not as good IMHO, but the licensing cost for Acrobat is bloody ridiculous - it's $240/year. You can get the entirety of MS Office for less than half that. They can burn in hell.

                    I was only joking

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Also allows those larger customers to afford it without so much cash up front. That being said, subscriptions in general need to add value on a regular basis otherwise it's a forced way to make much more revenue over the long run than a single purchase.

                      @Aqua-Letifer I also personally pay for Creative Cloud. I called to cancel one time and they were able to cut the cost in half. I only use it for Illustrator and Photoshop at times, and the cost per month is like $20 so I don't lose sleep over if I get enough value out of it. Personally, I'd rather just use my CS3 ripped versions from 2007 but the key I used no longer is valid 🙂

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        Also allows those larger customers to afford it without so much cash up front. That being said, subscriptions in general need to add value on a regular basis otherwise it's a forced way to make much more revenue over the long run than a single purchase.

                        @Aqua-Letifer I also personally pay for Creative Cloud. I called to cancel one time and they were able to cut the cost in half. I only use it for Illustrator and Photoshop at times, and the cost per month is like $20 so I don't lose sleep over if I get enough value out of it. Personally, I'd rather just use my CS3 ripped versions from 2007 but the key I used no longer is valid 🙂

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @89th said in "Canva":

                        @Aqua-Letifer I also personally pay for Creative Cloud.

                        lol you piker.

                        I'm so tied into the Adobe ecosphere. I use Lightroom, Photoshop, Illustrator, Firefly, Premiere and After Effects so much that I just use the same shit for my own projects so I don't have to learn new software.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          We dropped Adobe full version at work and adopted Foxit pdf editor instead as the license is quite a bit cheaper. It's not as good IMHO, but the licensing cost for Acrobat is bloody ridiculous - it's $240/year. You can get the entirety of MS Office for less than half that. They can burn in hell.

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                          #12

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in "Canva":

                          We dropped Adobe full version at work and adopted Foxit pdf editor instead as the license is quite a bit cheaper. It's not as good IMHO, but the licensing cost for Acrobat is bloody ridiculous - it's $240/year. You can get the entirety of MS Office for less than half that. They can burn in hell.

                          Getting on Adobe's case because of its PDF support is like calling France boring because you spent your entire time in the airport.

                          And not for nothing but do you know why their system is the best for PDF support? They invented PDFs.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in "Canva":

                            We dropped Adobe full version at work and adopted Foxit pdf editor instead as the license is quite a bit cheaper. It's not as good IMHO, but the licensing cost for Acrobat is bloody ridiculous - it's $240/year. You can get the entirety of MS Office for less than half that. They can burn in hell.

                            Getting on Adobe's case because of its PDF support is like calling France boring because you spent your entire time in the airport.

                            And not for nothing but do you know why their system is the best for PDF support? They invented PDFs.

                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

                            Getting on Adobe's case because of its PDF support is like calling France boring because you spent your entire time in the airport.

                            If my job was cleaning shit out of the airport toilets I think it would be OK to be a bit negative.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

                              Getting on Adobe's case because of its PDF support is like calling France boring because you spent your entire time in the airport.

                              If my job was cleaning shit out of the airport toilets I think it would be OK to be a bit negative.

                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in "Canva":

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in "Canva":

                              Getting on Adobe's case because of its PDF support is like calling France boring because you spent your entire time in the airport.

                              If my job was cleaning shit out of the airport toilets I think it would be OK to be a bit negative.

                              Hey, could be worse. Those could be AI toilets that don't need cleaning. Technology is awesome.

                              Please love yourself.

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