Florida bans kids from using social media
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@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Glad that Florida is putting through this law.
I would however oppose it if it were proposed here in this province or country - in the event it may fall under federal jurisdiction. I’d much rather see the enforcement budget it would require put into education or health care or even into addressing efforts to curb illegal cross border firearms trafficking.
You realize that more money into education or healthcare doesn’t necessarily improve either, right?
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@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Maybe, maybe be not.
No maybe about it. Money by itself means nothing when tossed into education. There needs to be other measures included.
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New York has the highest expenditure per student in the US at $29K per. They rank 6th in education. DC ranks second with $24K per student. They are ranked 49th. Need I go on?
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Utah has the lowest investment per student at $8K, and they are ranked 7th.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Maybe, maybe be not.
No maybe about it. Money by itself means nothing when tossed into education. There needs to be other measures included.
But I am not referring to the US. As I stated I am glad Florida is proposing this law but I would not want the Alberta G’vt to follow suit here. I do not see it as priority issue in this province or country.
I just see education and health care delivery as more important issues under exclusively provincial level jurisdiction than access to social media for minors. At the federal level, I consider the cross border trafficking of firearms a bigger issue than access to social media for minors.
I have no doubt about what you say about the state of education in the US you is true and should be addressed appropriately.
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@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
@LuFins-Dad said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Maybe, maybe be not.
No maybe about it. Money by itself means nothing when tossed into education. There needs to be other measures included.
But I am not referring to the US. As I stated I am glad Florida is proposing this law but I would not want the Alberta G’vt to follow suit here. I do not see it as priority issue in this province or country.
I just see education and health care delivery as more important issues under exclusively provincial level jurisdiction than access to social media for minors. At the federal level, I consider the cross border trafficking of firearms a bigger issue than access to social media for minors.
I have no doubt about what you say about the state of education in the US you is true and should be addressed appropriately.
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relating it to the country level is kinda irrelevant since this is a Florida law. Less than a province, really…
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you state that in your area you would prefer the money be spent on education. What is the expenditure per student in your area and how much more do you think would make the difference? Should that expenditure be spent on educators, facilities, or materials?
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Glad that Florida is proposing this law. It is obviously a priority issue there. Several here agree with it. Perhaps if I lived in Florida, I too would support it. But I don’t live in Florida. So what I have to say about a proposed law in Florida is of no consequence. I am happy with that being the case.
I just don’t want to see the local g’vt here follow suit with a similar law.
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BTW, the law in Florida received bipartisan support.
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@Jolly said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
BTW, the law in Florida received bipartisan support.
Much of what DeSantis has done in Florida has had Bipartisan support. Shhhhhhh….
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I still don't think that legislation is the best solution, and is mostly grandstanding.
There has been a long history of out-of-touch politicians trying to control things they don't understand when it comes to technology, particularly relating to the young.
Admittedly, I'm pretty out-of-touch myself at this point so maybe I'm completely wrong about this, which would definitely be a first.
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I'm ok with this even if it doesn't work. What we need is a cultural shift against smartphones / social media for kids. This is one front.
The goal is to get enough parents to take smartphones away from kids, then for schools to follow that with no-smartphone in class policies.
No individual measure has to be completely effective.
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I’m planning on getting Finley a flip phone as a teen when he needs one for phone calls. That’s it.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
I’m planning on getting Finley a flip phone as a teen when he needs one for phone calls. That’s it.
By the time he's a teen it's just possible they might be cool again
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@xenon said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
I'm ok with this even if it doesn't work. What we need is a cultural shift against smartphones / social media for kids. This is one front.
The goal is to get enough parents to take smartphones away from kids, then for schools to follow that with no-smartphone in class policies.
No individual measure has to be completely effective.
There was a ‘wait until 8th’ movement here trying to get patents to not give smart phones until 8th grade. We held out until 7th.
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I don't think we gave ours a smart phone until they were in High School, maybe even until they were sophomores or juniors, but I can't remember for sure
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Kind of like Aqua said, China controls kids time on computers, social media, games etc. They require uploading an official ID to sign up for an app, use facial recognition, etc. to identify users quite quickly. Ther are also huge fines for the gaming companies, social media companies if they break this rule.
In addition, the equivalant of Tik Tok bans "prank" videos, or even those that are taken in entertainment places where kids should not be (karaoke parlors, dance clubs, etc.)