Florida bans kids from using social media
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@Axtremus said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Those platforms already know (1) who you are (2) where you're logging in from and (3) how old you are.
(1) and (3) are mere guesses. While statistically those platforms can guess right some x% of the time (x > 50; “most of the time”), they are still guesses. It can well be argued that that level of accuracy is not yet sufficient to (a) deprive a population from their 1st Amendment rights or (b) to deprive the platform operators of treasure through fines when they guess wrong.
You haven't been paying attention to basically anything relating to this in the past five years, then.
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Well, if you know of pertinent statistics on how accurately social media platforms guess about their users’ ages and identities, I would certainly appreciate seeing the citations.
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@Axtremus said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Well, if you know of pertinent statistics on how accurately social media platforms guess about their users’ ages and identities, I would certainly appreciate seeing the citations.
Look 'em up yourself. You don't engage in good faith discussions so I'm not interested.
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But if we cut off social media access, how will kids know how to cut themselves safely?
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Glad that Florida is putting through this law.
I would however oppose it if it were proposed here in this province or country - in the event it may fall under federal jurisdiction. I’d much rather see the enforcement budget it would require put into education or health care or even into addressing efforts to curb illegal cross border firearms trafficking.
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@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
I’d much rather see the enforcement budget it would require put into education or health care or even into addressing efforts to curb illegal cross border firearms trafficking.
There is that.
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@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Glad that Florida is putting through this law.
I would however oppose it if it were proposed here in this province or country - in the event it may fall under federal jurisdiction. I’d much rather see the enforcement budget it would require put into education or health care or even into addressing efforts to curb illegal cross border firearms trafficking.
You realize that more money into education or healthcare doesn’t necessarily improve either, right?
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@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Maybe, maybe be not.
No maybe about it. Money by itself means nothing when tossed into education. There needs to be other measures included.
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New York has the highest expenditure per student in the US at $29K per. They rank 6th in education. DC ranks second with $24K per student. They are ranked 49th. Need I go on?
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Utah has the lowest investment per student at $8K, and they are ranked 7th.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Maybe, maybe be not.
No maybe about it. Money by itself means nothing when tossed into education. There needs to be other measures included.
But I am not referring to the US. As I stated I am glad Florida is proposing this law but I would not want the Alberta G’vt to follow suit here. I do not see it as priority issue in this province or country.
I just see education and health care delivery as more important issues under exclusively provincial level jurisdiction than access to social media for minors. At the federal level, I consider the cross border trafficking of firearms a bigger issue than access to social media for minors.
I have no doubt about what you say about the state of education in the US you is true and should be addressed appropriately.
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@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
@LuFins-Dad said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
@Renauda said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
Maybe, maybe be not.
No maybe about it. Money by itself means nothing when tossed into education. There needs to be other measures included.
But I am not referring to the US. As I stated I am glad Florida is proposing this law but I would not want the Alberta G’vt to follow suit here. I do not see it as priority issue in this province or country.
I just see education and health care delivery as more important issues under exclusively provincial level jurisdiction than access to social media for minors. At the federal level, I consider the cross border trafficking of firearms a bigger issue than access to social media for minors.
I have no doubt about what you say about the state of education in the US you is true and should be addressed appropriately.
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relating it to the country level is kinda irrelevant since this is a Florida law. Less than a province, really…
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you state that in your area you would prefer the money be spent on education. What is the expenditure per student in your area and how much more do you think would make the difference? Should that expenditure be spent on educators, facilities, or materials?
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Glad that Florida is proposing this law. It is obviously a priority issue there. Several here agree with it. Perhaps if I lived in Florida, I too would support it. But I don’t live in Florida. So what I have to say about a proposed law in Florida is of no consequence. I am happy with that being the case.
I just don’t want to see the local g’vt here follow suit with a similar law.
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BTW, the law in Florida received bipartisan support.
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@Jolly said in Florida bans kids from using social media:
BTW, the law in Florida received bipartisan support.
Much of what DeSantis has done in Florida has had Bipartisan support. Shhhhhhh….
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I still don't think that legislation is the best solution, and is mostly grandstanding.
There has been a long history of out-of-touch politicians trying to control things they don't understand when it comes to technology, particularly relating to the young.
Admittedly, I'm pretty out-of-touch myself at this point so maybe I'm completely wrong about this, which would definitely be a first.
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I'm ok with this even if it doesn't work. What we need is a cultural shift against smartphones / social media for kids. This is one front.
The goal is to get enough parents to take smartphones away from kids, then for schools to follow that with no-smartphone in class policies.
No individual measure has to be completely effective.
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I’m planning on getting Finley a flip phone as a teen when he needs one for phone calls. That’s it.