Baltimore Bay bridge collapses
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@Mik said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
This is going to be a mess.
The collapse of the Key Bridge means that the Baltimore Port will be unusable for many months.
It's the 13th most important US port for foreign trade
The economic impact on the city, which is already plagued by social misery and violent crime, will be huge
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 11:39 last edited by@George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
@Mik said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
This is going to be a mess.
The collapse of the Key Bridge means that the Baltimore Port will be unusable for many months.
It's the 13th most important US port for foreign trade
The economic impact on the city, which is already plagued by social misery and violent crime, will be huge
Not to sound crass, but I'd have to imagine they'll have the debris partially cleaned up relatively faster than that and a path made so that ships can at least go back and forth?
The harbor tunnel there (the alternate route) is going to get.... well, busy. I've often thought of how easy it would be to cripple areas like DC by taking out a structure or two on the overcrowded and old bridges there. Like the American Legion bridge and Wilson Bridge (or 395). And for the FBI watching, I'm just talking from a logistics standpoint.
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@George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
@Mik said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
This is going to be a mess.
The collapse of the Key Bridge means that the Baltimore Port will be unusable for many months.
It's the 13th most important US port for foreign trade
The economic impact on the city, which is already plagued by social misery and violent crime, will be huge
Not to sound crass, but I'd have to imagine they'll have the debris partially cleaned up relatively faster than that and a path made so that ships can at least go back and forth?
The harbor tunnel there (the alternate route) is going to get.... well, busy. I've often thought of how easy it would be to cripple areas like DC by taking out a structure or two on the overcrowded and old bridges there. Like the American Legion bridge and Wilson Bridge (or 395). And for the FBI watching, I'm just talking from a logistics standpoint.
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 11:49 last edited by@89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
for the FBI watching
At least one person (Andrew Tate!) claims it was a cyber attack on the ship, causing it to lose control.
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 12:02 last edited by
So dumb, the odds of timing a power outage just at the right time to make the ship shift with the current just in time to hit the bridge support...
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 12:14 last edited by
Holy crap, that is going to be devastating to Baltimore. That’s about the only thing in the city.
Tragic for the workers on the bridge.
Has anybody brought up the fact that the bridge is named for that racist ZSOB Frances Scott Key?
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 12:55 last edited by
Crazy footage.
I hope it doesn’t inspire terrorists.
Also, imagine the liability? Probably north of $3B
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 13:25 last edited by
Looks very bad.
No numbers on casualties yet.
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 13:27 last edited by
I’ve felt a long time that American infrastructure is decaying before our eyes. Europe has always seemed much more modern and maintained than the US.
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 13:47 last edited by
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 14:05 last edited by
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Holy crap, that is going to be devastating to Baltimore. That’s about the only thing in the city.
Tragic for the workers on the bridge.
Has anybody brought up the fact that the bridge is named for that racist ZSOB Frances Scott Key?
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 14:36 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Has anybody brought up the fact that the bridge is named for that racist ZSOB Frances Scott Key?
Are you kidding? That was literally the first thing I thought of.
BTW Key also has a bridge in DC named after him. Better stay off it!
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Crazy footage.
I hope it doesn’t inspire terrorists.
Also, imagine the liability? Probably north of $3B
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 14:37 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
I hope it doesn’t inspire terrorists.
I'm pretty sure my post earlier provided the inspiration. (waves to FBI)
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 14:37 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Hoping for the best.
They all miraculously landed in rafts!
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 14:39 last edited by
@George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Interesting.
Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Has anybody brought up the fact that the bridge is named for that racist ZSOB Frances Scott Key?
Are you kidding? That was literally the first thing I thought of.
BTW Key also has a bridge in DC named after him. Better stay off it!
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 15:07 last edited by@89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
BTW Key also has a bridge in DC named after him. Better stay off it!
What do the Key Bridge and Jimmy Carter have in common?
(a popular question when I worked in DC during the Carter Administration)
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@George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Interesting.
Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 15:14 last edited by@89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
@George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Interesting.
Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.
Hindsight is 20-20.
Did we have container ships in the 1970's like the one that struck the bridge?
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@89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
@George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Interesting.
Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.
Hindsight is 20-20.
Did we have container ships in the 1970's like the one that struck the bridge?
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 16:16 last edited by@Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
@89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
@George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:
Interesting.
Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.
Hindsight is 20-20.
Did we have container ships in the 1970's like the one that struck the bridge?
Installing bumpers isn’t hindsight, it’s something they’ve been warned about. Bridges have been having them installed for several decades.
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 16:25 last edited by
System designers and engineers have written reams and reams on "single points of failures."
Yet avoiding them in the real world is really, really hard; or really, really expensive. -
wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 16:43 last edited by xenon
Yeah - this seems like a freak, highly improbable thing.
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wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 16:55 last edited by
We’ve had barges run into the bridges in Cincinnati, but no such damage. The Ohio River Bridges are not nearly as high or long. That’s a factor.