The Racial Realignment
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@George-K said in The Racial Realignment:
@Jolly said in The Racial Realignment:
Remember what I said about the GOP?
Remember what LBJ allegedly said about the Democrats? He was off by about 130 years.
You guys (and the author) are putting too much weight into the African American vote and not enough on Hispanic and Asian vote.
@LuFins-Dad said in The Racial Realignment:
You guys (and the author) are putting too much weight into the African American vote and not enough on Hispanic and Asian vote.
I didn't intend to. The Latino vote has taken a similar drop to the Black vote since 2000.
Black: 80% -> 65%
Latino: 60% -> 45%Going back to 1960, the differences are similar, but perhaps bigger for Latino and "other non-white".
I found the age disparity also interesting.
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No doubt we’ve seen a shift, especially among non-white men, but boy are those data-free arrows from 20-24 doing a lot of work for his visual.
@jon-nyc said in The Racial Realignment:
data-free arrows
At the bottom of the pitchers:
Source: FT analysis of American National Election Studies, Cooperative Election Study and New York Times / Siena College poll (2024)
Sources: Adam Carlson (@admcrlsn), FT analysis of recent polls
Source: FT analysis of Cooperative Election Study. Based on Party of the People (Ruffini, 2023)
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As is his choice of 1964 as a starting point, when the man who passed the Civil Rights Act was running.
@jon-nyc said in The Racial Realignment:
the man who passed the Civil Rights Act was running
Are you really so convinced that LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act out of a sense of justice?
Knowing what I've read about him, I would suspect something more ... practical.
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What gave you the impression that I was opining on motive? All I said was that he passed the act, which he clearly did.
@jon-nyc said in The Racial Realignment:
What gave you the impression that I was opining on motive?
WRT to Burn-Murdoch? Nothing.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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But...as long as you bring up motive.
With the mess at the border(s), does anyone believe that this is an accident? That this is a consequence of humanitarian goals?
We have decades of the likes of Biden, Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi decrying the influx of illegals into the US.
What changed?
Why?
Cui bono?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@jon-nyc said in The Racial Realignment:
What gave you the impression that I was opining on motive?
WRT to Burn-Murdoch? Nothing.
@George-K said in The Racial Realignment:
@jon-nyc said in The Racial Realignment:
What gave you the impression that I was opining on motive?
WRT to Burn-Murdoch? Nothing.
No, with respect to Johnson’s pushing of the Civil Rights Act.
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But...as long as you bring up motive.
With the mess at the border(s), does anyone believe that this is an accident? That this is a consequence of humanitarian goals?
We have decades of the likes of Biden, Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi decrying the influx of illegals into the US.
What changed?
Why?
Cui bono?
@George-K said in The Racial Realignment:
But...as long as you bring up motive.
With the mess at the border(s), does anyone believe that this is an accident? That this is a consequence of humanitarian goals?
We have decades of the likes of Biden, Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi decrying the influx of illegals into the US.
What changed?
Why?
Cui bono?
Cui bono?
If you believe the NYT/Sienna poll, the GOP. It has blacks going dem by 44 points and Hispanics leaning republican.
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@George-K said in The Racial Realignment:
But...as long as you bring up motive.
With the mess at the border(s), does anyone believe that this is an accident? That this is a consequence of humanitarian goals?
We have decades of the likes of Biden, Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi decrying the influx of illegals into the US.
What changed?
Why?
Cui bono?
Cui bono?
If you believe the NYT/Sienna poll, the GOP. It has blacks going dem by 44 points and Hispanics leaning republican.
@jon-nyc said in The Racial Realignment:
Cui bono?
If you believe the NYT/Sienna poll, the GOP. It has blacks going dem by 44 points and Hispanics leaning republican.
Yeah, I get that. Does that poll have anything to do with polling the "migrants?"
And the black going GOP is historically high.
I don't know.
Purely anecdotal, most Hispanics I spoke, a long time ago, were opposed tl the illegals getting in. I don't think their views have changed.
Do you think that allowing all these people, the number of which exceeds the population of some states, is a cynical attempt at solidifying the "base?"
And related, do you think it might backfire?
