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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Not going to lie, she looks kinda hot when she's angry. I'm surprised there isn't any security around her besides her wet noodle partner.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Not going to lie, she looks kinda hot when she's angry. I'm surprised there isn't any security around her besides her wet noodle partner.

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      George K
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      @89th on the crazy/ hot axis there’s just too much of the crazy.

      Not Boebert hot/crazy but still.

      But remember that Boebert has the GILF thing going so there’s that.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Ha good point. You know, SNL should do a skit where the President is giving the state of the union, and congress is divided not by party, but by hot/crazy.

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          I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

            I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

            AI will do us no favors there.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

              I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

              AI will do us no favors there.

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              LuFins Dad
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

              @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

              I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

              AI will do us no favors there.

              Oh man. One of my Twitter follows is this guy from BBC Verify. The amount of crap out there is absurd, on both sides. It doesn’t even have to be AI generated. Present videos from Syria and claim it’s Jews attacking Gaza…That kind of crap.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

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                89th
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                @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

                tl;dr

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                  I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

                  It's hard to know, but I wonder how different it used to be in the good old days. There were plenty of people unwilling to accept how awful Hitler, Stalin etc. were in the 30's, and lefties in particular were more than willing to overlook the purges going on in the Soviet Union. Another example, British Communists went overnight from protesting against the war against Germany (during the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) to 'SECOND FRONT NOW' immediately after the USSR were invaded, and prior to WW2 many on the right tacitly supported Hitler as being an enemy of communism.

                  Also, the British press at least were frequently happy to toe the establishment line and not make the unwashed masses aware of what was actually going on.

                  The idea that the great mass of people used to have wonderful critical-thinking skills is nice, but I'm not sure it stands up to scrutiny.

                  I was only joking

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                    I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

                    tl;dr

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                    jon-nyc
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                    @89th said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                    @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                    I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

                    tl;dr

                    Lol

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                      I really wish this generation was better at critical thinking. Instead, they just take a look at surface details and don’t dig any deeper. It’s allowing them to be led and manipulated in dangerous ways.

                      It's hard to know, but I wonder how different it used to be in the good old days. There were plenty of people unwilling to accept how awful Hitler, Stalin etc. were in the 30's, and lefties in particular were more than willing to overlook the purges going on in the Soviet Union. Another example, British Communists went overnight from protesting against the war against Germany (during the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) to 'SECOND FRONT NOW' immediately after the USSR were invaded, and prior to WW2 many on the right tacitly supported Hitler as being an enemy of communism.

                      Also, the British press at least were frequently happy to toe the establishment line and not make the unwashed masses aware of what was actually going on.

                      The idea that the great mass of people used to have wonderful critical-thinking skills is nice, but I'm not sure it stands up to scrutiny.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes

                      I don’t believe either that the critical thinking skills of the vast majority of the population were any better in past than now. Common folk in past - and by past I mean the last 200 hundred years - may have had a more practical savy with everyday manual tasks or skilled trades, but for more abstract endeavours such as political discourse, I don’t think they saw the world or understood it much differently than people today. As for the intelligentsia, it too grappled with pretty much the same opposing ‘isms and multitude of ideas as people now. My own grandparents’ generation produced defenders of democratic institutions and liberalism like Churchill and Attlee as well as FDR, Truman and Eisenhower. That generation also produced the extremist populism of Marxism-Leninism and fascism that spawned the unthinkable brutality of totalitarian governance and global war.

                      Elbows up!

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                        The thing that generally gets overlooked when people talk about the book 1984 is that the proles really don't give a shit. Orwell must have based that idea on something

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          The thing that generally gets overlooked when people talk about the book 1984 is that the proles really don't give a shit. Orwell must have based that idea on something

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                          Renauda
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                          @Doctor-Phibes

                          Likely. I would add that left alone, the outlook of the vast majority of people can be described as laissez-faire libertarian; that is, at least until such time that they are not either laissez-faire or libertarian.

                          Elbows up!

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                            @Renauda @Doctor-Phibes I would use your arguments as support for mine. The very fact that we have these examples in the past and so many fail to pay heed suggests to me that the problem is worse.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Renauda @Doctor-Phibes I would use your arguments as support for mine. The very fact that we have these examples in the past and so many fail to pay heed suggests to me that the problem is worse.

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                              @LuFins-Dad

                              I would agree that it is on a larger scale than in past partly because populations have grown. I would also maintain that the speed, scope and accessibility of mass communications has shrunk the world and facilitated more people to become engaged be it productively or, unfortunately, destructively.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @Renauda @Doctor-Phibes I would use your arguments as support for mine. The very fact that we have these examples in the past and so many fail to pay heed suggests to me that the problem is worse.

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                                @Renauda @Doctor-Phibes I would use your arguments as support for mine. The very fact that we have these examples in the past and so many fail to pay heed suggests to me that the problem is worse.

                                I suspect the problem is much the same. The main difference is that nowadays we get to hear what every Tom Dick or Harry thinks about everything, whereas in the past we didn't have the opportunity to listen to their nonsense.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Yes. These folks did not have a platform before.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    1. 30,000 deaths over 6 months is not a genocide. It’s a war. A remarkably restrained war considering the weaponry available. The death toll is not even in the same league as the Russian/Ukraine War, Syria, and the current Ethiopian conflict. If Israel wanted a genocide, we would be seeing 30K deaths per month.

                                    2. The 30K figure is actually provided by one of the partisans in the conflict. Any verification has been provided by a UN organization that has been proven not only complicit, but an active participant in the October 7th terror strikes.

                                    3. When placing missile batteries, weapon stockpiles, and such in schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, and office buildings, the ethical and moral blame for those deaths falls onto the Hamas authorities and to some small extent on the Palestinian people themselves for continuing to support, promote, and protect these bastards.

                                    The Brad

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                                      There is no Israeli policy to annihilate Palestinians Arabs. Nor, to my knowledge, is there any intent on the part of the Israeli State to annihilate Palestinian Arabs because they are; a) Palestinian or, b) Arabs or, c) both Palestinian and Arab and therefore deemed racially inferior to Jews and citizens of Israel.

                                      Contrast that with stated policy of Hamas that explicitly calls for the annihilation of the state of Israel and systematic physical liquidation of all Jews residing in Arab Islamic states. All Hamas initiated terrorist actions to date against Israeli citizens individually and collectively or the Israeli state are active expressions in fulfillment of that stated policy.

                                      The only genocidal entity out there is Hamas. It is solely responsible and accountable for sustaining the desperation and collective death of Palestinian Arabs in this conflict. The killing stops when Hamas lays down its weapons and abandons its genocidal objectives.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        There is no Israeli policy to annihilate Palestinians Arabs. Nor, to my knowledge, is there any intent on the part of the Israeli State to annihilate Palestinian Arabs because they are; a) Palestinian or, b) Arabs or, c) both Palestinian and Arab and therefore deemed racially inferior to Jews and citizens of Israel.

                                        Contrast that with stated policy of Hamas that explicitly calls for the annihilation of the state of Israel and systematic physical liquidation of all Jews residing in Arab Islamic states. All Hamas initiated terrorist actions to date against Israeli citizens individually and collectively or the Israeli state are active expressions in fulfillment of that stated policy.

                                        The only genocidal entity out there is Hamas. It is solely responsible and accountable for sustaining the desperation and collective death of Palestinian Arabs in this conflict. The killing stops when Hamas lays down its weapons and abandons its genocidal objectives.

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                                        @Renauda said in "Hay AOC! Say the word!":

                                        The only genocidal entity out there is Hamas.

                                        There is this guy.

                                        Genocidal Congressman Calls for Killing "Hamas"

                                        Link to video

                                        Ogles responded bluntly: “You know what? So, I think we should kill ’em all if that makes you feel better. Hamas and the Palestinians have been attacking Israel for 20 years. It’s time to pay the piper.”

                                        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/21/us-congressman-andy-ogles-stirs-outrage-with-gaza-comment-kill-them-all

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                                          While the esteemed Congressman’s remarks are incendiary and unhelpful, they are not policy statements. If he were to present those ideas for policy consideration on the floor of Congress then a conversation or debate about implications of possible crimes against humanity could and would start.

                                          As it stands, that is just his stated opinion and nothing else. I’ve heard similar emotional irrationality from other, and much less consequential, quarters.

                                          Elbows up!

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