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Rejecting Ramsey

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  • 89th8 89th

    They really need to emphasize financial planning and financial literacy in high school. It not only helps individuals, but also society as a whole... both in terms of the stock market participation as well as reducing reliance on government support. I have 2 brothers who are living good lives, but probably have zero savings in the bank, and one brother who (like me) has prioritized a steady contribution to savings when possible. It will be interesting to see how things play out as we all become old men, if we are so fortunate to make it that far.

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    @89th said in Rejecting Ramsey:

    They really need to emphasize financial planning and financial literacy in high school. It not only helps individuals, but also society as a whole... both in terms of the stock market participation as well as reducing reliance on government support. I have 2 brothers who are living good lives, but probably have zero savings in the bank, and one brother who (like me) has prioritized a steady contribution to savings when possible. It will be interesting to see how things play out as we all become old men, if we are so fortunate to make it that far.

    Preach on, brother!

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Very few people become wealthy quickly. It's discipline over time.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Being wealthy is a burden and I don't wish it on anybody. I envy the stupid, poor masses, for their simple lives and unevolved perspectives.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • 89th8 89th

          They really need to emphasize financial planning and financial literacy in high school. It not only helps individuals, but also society as a whole... both in terms of the stock market participation as well as reducing reliance on government support. I have 2 brothers who are living good lives, but probably have zero savings in the bank, and one brother who (like me) has prioritized a steady contribution to savings when possible. It will be interesting to see how things play out as we all become old men, if we are so fortunate to make it that far.

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          @89th said in Rejecting Ramsey:

          They really need to emphasize financial planning and financial literacy in high school. It not only helps individuals, but also society as a whole... both in terms of the stock market participation as well as reducing reliance on government support. I have 2 brothers who are living good lives, but probably have zero savings in the bank, and one brother who (like me) has prioritized a steady contribution to savings when possible. It will be interesting to see how things play out as we all become old men, if we are so fortunate to make it that far.

          How do your brothers feel about Trump?

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Mik

            Very few people become wealthy quickly. It's discipline over time.

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            @Mik said in Rejecting Ramsey:

            Very few people become wealthy quickly. It's discipline over time.

            A good financial advisor once told me the advice he gives most often is "No".

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              I don’t think they really care either way. One lives in Texas and the other lives in Denmark. They vote conservative I think, but aren’t so crazy as to own a fig tree. We don’t normally chat about politics, or trees, that much.

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                Dude, you really need to talk about trees more.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  I just planted my potted Violette de Bordeaux fig tree in my side yard yesterday. I'm not sure it'll get enough sun. I'll plant one more soon, a Celeste. I bought them both a year ago and they did ok last year, but the hot weather made them dormant for a couple months in summer. In the ground, they'll be more insulated, and should produce and grow through the summer. My only concern is enough sunlight. I have to put them next to a fairly tall fence, which will shade them but for a few months in summer when the sun is directly overhead.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    If I lived where I could I’d have lots of fruit trees, especially citrus.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      Before I got my first job, I had an allowance of $6 a week to cover the cost of lunch and incidentals at school. I never took a bus - walking 3 miles to/from school. I remember spending 26 cents a day for lunch - which consisted of 2 cartons of chocolate milk (3 cents each), a Little Debbie chocolate brownie (10 cents) and a small bag of pretzels (10 cents). That way, I was clearing over $4 a week of savings.

                      In college, I worked for a sleep laboratory - and didn't have an apartment or dorm. When I slept, I slept in an office on the floor in a sleeping bag so I didn't have any rent expense. I microwaved food in the cafeteria and stored food in a refrigerator that was used to store dead rats from the animal lab. At one point I was working 3 jobs while in school - sleep lab, deli worker on weekends and testing service - but I was always working.

                      When I graduated college, I had no debt and actually saved almost 10 grand - enough for a 20% down payment a house that I bought at 24.

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                        My version of that was I'd have two or three chocolate milks and have enough lunch money left over for a pack of smokes. Different times. By college I had quit smoking, but I also had no allowance.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          Before I got my first job, I had an allowance of $6 a week to cover the cost of lunch and incidentals at school. I never took a bus - walking 3 miles to/from school. I remember spending 26 cents a day for lunch - which consisted of 2 cartons of chocolate milk (3 cents each), a Little Debbie chocolate brownie (10 cents) and a small bag of pretzels (10 cents). That way, I was clearing over $4 a week of savings.

                          In college, I worked for a sleep laboratory - and didn't have an apartment or dorm. When I slept, I slept in an office on the floor in a sleeping bag so I didn't have any rent expense. I microwaved food in the cafeteria and stored food in a refrigerator that was used to store dead rats from the animal lab. At one point I was working 3 jobs while in school - sleep lab, deli worker on weekends and testing service - but I was always working.

                          When I graduated college, I had no debt and actually saved almost 10 grand - enough for a 20% down payment a house that I bought at 24.

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                          @kluurs Yeah but that sounds so hard, so I don't think kids should have to do it. Kidding, and glad you didn't eat any rats by accident, I hope.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            YOLO only goes so far.

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                            @Mik said in Rejecting Ramsey:

                            YOLO only goes so far.

                            Because YODO

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              I just planted my potted Violette de Bordeaux fig tree in my side yard yesterday. I'm not sure it'll get enough sun. I'll plant one more soon, a Celeste. I bought them both a year ago and they did ok last year, but the hot weather made them dormant for a couple months in summer. In the ground, they'll be more insulated, and should produce and grow through the summer. My only concern is enough sunlight. I have to put them next to a fairly tall fence, which will shade them but for a few months in summer when the sun is directly overhead.

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                              @Horace said in Rejecting Ramsey:

                              I just planted my potted Violette de Bordeaux fig tree in my side yard yesterday. I'm not sure it'll get enough sun. I'll plant one more soon, a Celeste. I bought them both a year ago and they did ok last year, but the hot weather made them dormant for a couple months in summer. In the ground, they'll be more insulated, and should produce and grow through the summer. My only concern is enough sunlight. I have to put them next to a fairly tall fence, which will shade them but for a few months in summer when the sun is directly overhead.

                              Mayhaws and apples are blooming right now. Pears and plums are just starting to show a smidgen. Figs aren't budded at all.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                I’m looking forward to being in Texas hill country in late March early April. Hoping to see the bluebonnets.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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