Westmoreland was right?
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I dont know much about that war and situation, but this from the article was my attention
Only bombing of the Ho Chi Minh trail was permitted. It was ineffective in stopping the North Vietnamese invasion of South Vietnam.
There is a museum I visited in Vientiane, Laos which is about the bombing in Laos during the Vietnam war. It may have been ineffective for the Ho Chi Minh trail, but it was pretty devastating for Laos as a country.
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Mattereth not.
Since I was around at the time and was quite aware of the Domino Theory, the goal was to keep South Vietnam from falling.
The stuff you're flinging against the wall would be nice in a perfect world, but SE Asia, Central and South America, have never been perfect worlds, have they? So, in terms of Real Politick...
I think we would vastly prefer a democracy in name only - one friendly to the the U.S. - over a hostile communist country. Donchya think?
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Mattereth not.
Since I was around at the time and was quite aware of the Domino Theory, the goal was to keep South Vietnam from falling.
The stuff you're flinging against the wall would be nice in a perfect world, but SE Asia, Central and South America, have never been perfect worlds, have they? So, in terms of Real Politick...
I think we would vastly prefer a democracy in name only - one friendly to the the U.S. - over a hostile communist country. Donchya think?
@Jolly said in Westmoreland was right?:
Mattereth not.
Since I was around at the time and was quite aware of the Domino Theory, the goal was to keep South Vietnam from falling.
The stuff you're flinging against the wall would be nice in a perfect world, but SE Asia, Central and South America, have never been perfect worlds, have they? So, in terms of Real Politick...
Not to derail this thread over the tragic folly that was the US military involvement in Vietnam 50 plus years ago…
I will keep what you wrote in mind above for later when the topic of ongoing US involvement NATO or ongoing military support for the defence of Ukraine crops up here. While Europe is not SE or countries that are geographically located under the Monroe Doctrine, the majority of it is made up of imperfectly democratic states and its continued security is of vital interest to the US since 1941.
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Comparing apples to kumquats.
Two major differences:
- Vietnam was not a superpower. Yes, they were a proxy war for the Soviets and to a lesser extent, Red China, but AFAIK, neither had combat troops packing rifles. The reason the U.S. did not invade North Vietnam or level Hanoi, was to avoid open conflict with the Soviets.
- Russia is currently directly involved in the Ukraine War and I think the U.S. is more open in their support of Ukraine, as compared to the Soviets in North Vietnam, but we certainly don't want a direct confrontation between two nuclear powers. But the huge difference is the nations that have skin in the game, when talking about the war in Ukraine. Multiple European countries, many with substantial militaries and substantial economies. The U.S. has provided more military aid than all other European countries combined. Germany, the U.K. and surprisingly, Denmark are the European countries providing most of the military aid to Ukraine.
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts
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Apples to kumquats be damned. Vietnam was yesterday’s news and a topic for an undergraduate Cold War or military history course.
Europe however is today and the US is the single leading part of the security guarantee package. Same goes for Israel and the Middle East. You know it well as anyone here.
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Then tell Canada to get off its dead ass and get involved.
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No.
While I may not agree with all of The Resident's policies in Ukraine and while I think we have done our fair share and more, your country is sadly lacking.
Sadly. Fucking. Lacking.
They are not the country they used to be. Why, I do not know. Too damn many urban Canadians I guess, with the backbone bred out of them.
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What do you mean “no”? I’ve at least twice posted here I have been involved in trying to increase defence spending. I think you either suffer from selective memory or are so full of yourself you can’t begin to comprehend what others here tell you.
Now go back to your hand wringing over Vietnam.
