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  • George KG George K

    Hamas has explicitly rejected a two-state solution, Madame Senator.

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    @George-K Exactly. Read the 1988 Hamas charter, or even the revise 2017 charter.

    It is in the second paragraph.

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

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      @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/12/israeli-commandos-apartment-rescue-hostages-raid/

      At 1.49am on Monday, Israeli commandos climbed to the roof of a two-storey building in the middle of Gaza’s sprawling southern city of Rafah.

      After entering the block, elite counter-terrorism soldiers descended to the second floor where they attached explosives to the door of an apartment.

      The blast instantly killed three Hamas terrorists standing in the corridor on the other side.

      Those men were guarding Fernando Marman, 60, and Louis Har, 70, who were kidnapped from their kibbutz of Nir Yitzhak, just across from Gaza, 129 days earlier.

      “The diamonds are in our hands,” the commanders radioed back to HQ as they gathered up the hostages, using a pre-agreed codeword.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        30,000?

        A good start...

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        Wim
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        #942

        @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

        30,000?

        A good start...

        Of which at least 8500 children.
        I feel absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, but who can possibly approve this? Apparently king Herod has resurrected...

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        • W Wim

          @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          30,000?

          A good start...

          Of which at least 8500 children.
          I feel absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, but who can possibly approve this? Apparently king Herod has resurrected...

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          George K
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          #943

          @Wim said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          Of which at least 8500 children.

          Define "children."

          Less than 18 years old?
          Those not carrying AK-47s?

          In Chicago, a 17 year old is in custody following a shooting and attempted carjacking. This "child" killed the victim.

          Oh, he was on bail for ANOTHER shooting at the time.

          Children.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #944

            A reported 75% of Gazans supported Hamas.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • W Wim

              @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              30,000?

              A good start...

              Of which at least 8500 children.
              I feel absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, but who can possibly approve this? Apparently king Herod has resurrected...

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              #945

              @Wim said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              30,000?

              A good start...

              Of which at least 8500 children.
              I feel absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, but who can possibly approve this? Apparently king Herod has resurrected...

              That’s on Hamas. It wasn’t the Israelis putting missile batteries in schools, clinics, and private residential buildings. An 8 year old boy was shot by off duty police in Houston on Sunday because an insane woman pulled the kid into a church and started to shoot at people. Is that the fault of the police or the lunatic?

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Wim said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                30,000?

                A good start...

                Of which at least 8500 children.
                I feel absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, but who can possibly approve this? Apparently king Herod has resurrected...

                That’s on Hamas. It wasn’t the Israelis putting missile batteries in schools, clinics, and private residential buildings. An 8 year old boy was shot by off duty police in Houston on Sunday because an insane woman pulled the kid into a church and started to shoot at people. Is that the fault of the police or the lunatic?

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                @LuFins-Dad said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                @Wim said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                30,000?

                A good start...

                Of which at least 8500 children.
                I feel absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, but who can possibly approve this? Apparently king Herod has resurrected...

                That’s on Hamas. It wasn’t the Israelis putting missile batteries in schools, clinics, and private residential buildings. An 8 year old boy was shot by off duty police in Houston on Sunday because an insane woman pulled the kid into a church and started to shoot at people. Is that the fault of the police or thetransgendered lunatic?

                FIFY.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  @Wim said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  30,000?

                  A good start...

                  Of which at least 8500 children.
                  I feel absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, but who can possibly approve this? Apparently king Herod has resurrected...

                  That’s on Hamas. It wasn’t the Israelis putting missile batteries in schools, clinics, and private residential buildings. An 8 year old boy was shot by off duty police in Houston on Sunday because an insane woman pulled the kid into a church and started to shoot at people. Is that the fault of the police or thetransgendered lunatic?

                  FIFY.

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                  Wim
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                  #947

                  @Jolly As I said before: I feel absolutely NO sympathy for Hamas. But I bet that most of those dead children weren't carrying AK47's.
                  And no: I'm not an anti-Israelite.

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                    Link to video

                    The Israeli military released a video that purportedly shows the Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar inside a tunnel below the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, with his wife, children and his brother Ibrahim Sinwar.

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                      Bibi blew it?

                      Prime Minister Netanyahu could have prevented Hamas’s October 7 terror attack by cutting the terror group’s funding supply, Mossad’s former Head of Economic Warfare Udi Levy told the BBC on Monday.

                      Levy told the BBC that Netanyahu failed to act on intelligence, which would have disrupted Hamas’s military capabilities. He continued to tell the source that Hamas could have been destroyed "by using only financial tools.”

                      Speaking on Hamas’s October 7 terror attack, Levy confirmed his belief that the infiltration would not have damaged Israel to the extent it had if intelligence had been acted upon.

                      “There is a very good chance that... we would [have] prevent[ed] a lot of the money" that had gone into Gaza, and that "the monster that Hamas built probably [wouldn't be] like the same monster that we faced on October 7th," Levy told the BBC.

                      If Netanyahu had followed the advice, Levy said that Hamas would have needed "billions, not millions" of dollars to build its expansive network of terror tunnels under the Gaza Strip.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Bibi blew it?

                        Prime Minister Netanyahu could have prevented Hamas’s October 7 terror attack by cutting the terror group’s funding supply, Mossad’s former Head of Economic Warfare Udi Levy told the BBC on Monday.

                        Levy told the BBC that Netanyahu failed to act on intelligence, which would have disrupted Hamas’s military capabilities. He continued to tell the source that Hamas could have been destroyed "by using only financial tools.”

                        Speaking on Hamas’s October 7 terror attack, Levy confirmed his belief that the infiltration would not have damaged Israel to the extent it had if intelligence had been acted upon.

                        “There is a very good chance that... we would [have] prevent[ed] a lot of the money" that had gone into Gaza, and that "the monster that Hamas built probably [wouldn't be] like the same monster that we faced on October 7th," Levy told the BBC.

                        If Netanyahu had followed the advice, Levy said that Hamas would have needed "billions, not millions" of dollars to build its expansive network of terror tunnels under the Gaza Strip.

                        taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        @George-K He gave am example, but even with that example, I am not sure what financial tools the Isreal could have used?

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          Oh…

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #952

                            There he goes again, mincing words.

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                              Horace
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                              #953

                              Minced words are the main ingredient in alphabet soup.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                They may not be Hamas but I have read they overwhelmingly support Hamas.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  They may not be Hamas but I have read they overwhelmingly support Hamas.

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                                  @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  They may not be Hamas but I have read they overwhelmingly support Hamas.

                                  The most recent poll of Gazans that I saw still show approval for the Oct 7th attack of about 65%. In the West Bank, that number is about 85%.

                                  Stop lying, Mr. President.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Apparently he's trying to appeal to the fantasy that a population can't be systematically programmed by the dominant culture, to hold ideas that would be considered evil by progressive Western standards. No, all such idea holders are marginal, in every culture ever known to man, because western values are actually universal values, and everybody is born knowing the truth of them.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                        George K
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                                        @bachophile the sigh...LOL.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • W Wim

                                          @Jolly As I said before: I feel absolutely NO sympathy for Hamas. But I bet that most of those dead children weren't carrying AK47's.
                                          And no: I'm not an anti-Israelite.

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                                          @Wim said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                          @Jolly As I said before: I feel absolutely NO sympathy for Hamas. But I bet that most of those dead children weren't carrying AK47's.
                                          And no: I'm not an anti-Israelite.

                                          If not for killing civilians, you might well be flying a swastika on your nation's flag. The Allies killed close to four million German civilians.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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