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Remind me, who are the new Nazis?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/02/they-firebombed-my-office.php

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      Minnesota Congressman Andy Smith thinks arson is such a hoot.

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Minnesota Congressman Andy Smith thinks arson is such a hoot.

        GFSHbrpWwAAd1NK.png

        JollyJ Offline
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        @George-K said in Remind me, who are the new Nazis?:

        Minnesota Congressman Andy Smith thinks arson is such a hoot.

        GFSHbrpWwAAd1NK.png

        Well he does have a theology degree and went to seminary...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #4

          https://alphanews.org/fire-at-building-housing-3-conservative-organizations-investigated-as-arson/

          “It’s deeply troubling that we may have been a target of arson — an act of domestic terrorism — because of the work we do on behalf of the people of Minnesota and the Upper Midwest,” Dickey said. “We hope that the authorities will bring those responsible to justice, and we will do everything we can to help those efforts.

          “Most importantly, we’re grateful that our team is safe and, to our knowledge, nobody was harmed in the fire. It’s very sad to see the extensive damage to our office suite and also to Center of the American Experiment and TakeCharge,” Dickey said.

          So, a building housing 3 conservative-leaning groups is fire-bombed.

          Let's see what coverage this story is getting...

          Washington Post: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=arson+minnesota+conservative&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=wapo.com&as_occt=any&as_filetype=&tbs=

          New York Times: https://www.google.com/search?lr=&sca_esv=82c0f5fcf9e8a56e&hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=arson+minnesota+conservative+site:nytimes.com&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqrbyUqo2EAxXxj2oFHTanAaoQ0pQJegQIERAB&biw=1341&bih=1187&dpr=2

          LATimes: https://www.google.com/search?lr=&sca_esv=82c0f5fcf9e8a56e&hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=arson+minnesota+conservative+site:latimes.com&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjfzNejqo2EAxVnlGoFHWMmAqkQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=1341&bih=1187&dpr=2

          Nothing.

          What if...nah. You know.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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            Not trying to minimize the crime, but why would this be national news?

            For me, I have never heard of the group before. From looking at the "National Center for Charitable Statistics", they have revenue of about USD$1.2MM, so not a huge company - maybe locally, but there are many $1.2MM companies in the US.

            For example, in 2021, there were 185 House of Worship fires, and 180 in Education places that were investigates by BATS (Bomb Arson Tracking System) as arson. How many made national news?

            https://www.atf.gov/arson/docs/report/annual-arson-incident-report-2021/download

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              Not trying to minimize the crime, but why would this be national news?

              For me, I have never heard of the group before. From looking at the "National Center for Charitable Statistics", they have revenue of about USD$1.2MM, so not a huge company - maybe locally, but there are many $1.2MM companies in the US.

              For example, in 2021, there were 185 House of Worship fires, and 180 in Education places that were investigates by BATS (Bomb Arson Tracking System) as arson. How many made national news?

              https://www.atf.gov/arson/docs/report/annual-arson-incident-report-2021/download

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @taiwan_girl said in Remind me, who are the new Nazis?:

              why would this be national news?

              You're asking the wrong question.

              If a building that housed three liberal organizations was firebombed, would it be national news?

              Of course it would.

              Education places and Houses of Worship are not the same thing.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @taiwan_girl said in Remind me, who are the new Nazis?:

                why would this be national news?

                You're asking the wrong question.

                If a building that housed three liberal organizations was firebombed, would it be national news?

                Of course it would.

                Education places and Houses of Worship are not the same thing.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                taiwan_girl
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                @George-K said in Remind me, who are the new Nazis?:

                Education places and Houses of Worship are not the same thing.

                I would think that these would get more news. (Or maybe more worthy of news)

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #8

                  Church fires? Dime a dozen. Arson at churches is much more rare, and does get reported. Sometimes nationally. Which national networks is normally determined by the presumed cause…

                  Educational sites arson investigations? Do you have any idea how many students set trash cans ablaze?

                  The difference you’re missing here is the scope of the fire as well…

                  The Brad

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    Again, I am not minimizing the crime, but I just dont understand why this was a national story vs. other arson fires that were also never national.

                    It was covered locally
                    https://www.twincities.com/2024/02/02/american-experiment-arson-suspected-atf/

                    www.startribune.com

                    plus other local papers. Also, by the AP News.

                    By the same reasoning, there may be arson of Democrat offices that are not reported nationally so we dont know about them.

                    Here is a arson fire at a Democratic office in Austin, TX. A internet search does not really show any national coverage (no more than the incident above)

                    https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2021/09/29/fire-at-travis-county-democratic-party-office-intentionally-set--investigators-say-

                    Here is a story about a 100 year old church that was completely destroyed by arson in Minnesota. When I do an internet search, other than local news stations (and one CBS story), nothing else seems to be national. 🤷

                    https://www.fox9.com/news/church-arson-5k-reward-spurs-tips-to-atf-investigators

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      #10

                      #1) The conservatives hit by the arson are active on Social Media. They got the right attention that drove media to the story…

                      #2) Compared to the Dem headquarters, the scale of damage is drastically different

                      #3) The Chilurch in Minnesota? Just guessing, but I bet A LOT of churches and buildings have been burned down In Minneapolis without getting any attention over the last 4 years…

                      The Brad

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