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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    https://www.businessinsider.com/school-principal-japan-fired-pour-coffee-paid-for-2024-2?op=1

    The principal of a junior high school in Japan was dismissed from his job on Tuesday after he was caught dispensing more coffee than he paid for at a convenience store, local media reported.

    He said he realized in June that store staff didn't notice when he dispensed a $1.25 coffee at a self-service machine while paying for a $0.75 cup, the outlet reported, citing the Hyogo prefecture Board of Education.

    The principal said he poured himself extra coffee seven times throughout the year until he was caught in December by a store clerk, who called the police in the city of Takasago, Yomiuri TV reported.

    The coffee caper has led to the principal's disciplinary dismissal, according to the Board of Education.

    The principal apologized to students and their families in a statement through the board, saying his role was to lead by example and encourage discipline.

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    • George KG Offline
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      Slightly off topic, but the culture of "Japanese politeness" has no peer.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        First time I got into a Japan taxi - driver was dressed in a shirt and tie and white gloves and he had a mechanism (almost like an old bus thing) that opened and closed the back passenger door for you.

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          That’s quite a conservative attitude. I wonder how their attitudes towards LGBT etc and abortion and other classical western conservative values, map.

          Education is extremely important.

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            I'd go after the snitch.
            Somehow. I'd get even.

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            • George KG George K

              Slightly off topic, but the culture of "Japanese politeness" has no peer.

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              @George-K said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

              Slightly off topic, but the culture of "Japanese politeness" has no peer.

              Go back 80 years.

              Would that be described as 'occasionally impolite'? 🙂

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @George-K said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

                Slightly off topic, but the culture of "Japanese politeness" has no peer.

                Go back 80 years.

                Would that be described as 'occasionally impolite'? 🙂

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

                Go back 80 years.

                Would that be described as 'occasionally impolite'? 🙂

                Fair enough.

                Perhaps "polite within its own culture" would have been more accurate.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  This sounds incredibly and oddly racist, but every Japanese person that I have known has been so impossibly polite, nice, and industrious. It is so difficult to square what I know of Japanese personally with WWII Imperial Japan…

                  It’s also weird to watch the manga and anime stuff, as well. So incredibly beautiful and moving, truly outstanding art form and stories, then WHAM!!! Tentacle rape… I think the nukes broke them in some fundamental way.

                  The Brad

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                    I don't really understand what happened to Japan in WW2. I've read that the Japanese treated POW's in WW1 very well, and then maybe the military perverted their long military tradition and also mistreated their own people which led to the atrocities. It's odd that this collective insanity seemed to take countries over like this in the 30's and 40's.

                    I was only joking

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                      Paying for a 75¢ product but taking away a 125¢ product is quite clearly “theft,” and “theft” is “crime.”

                      What’s “not crime” are things like teachers posting twerking videos or doing OnlyFans side gigs or teaching sex-ed or teaching civil rights history or advocating for diversity/equity/inclusion — many U.S. school districts fire them for such “non-crimes” anyway.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        I don't really understand what happened to Japan in WW2. I've read that the Japanese treated POW's in WW1 very well, and then maybe the military perverted their long military tradition and also mistreated their own people which led to the atrocities. It's odd that this collective insanity seemed to take countries over like this in the 30's and 40's.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

                        I don't really understand what happened to Japan in WW2. I've read that the Japanese treated POW's in WW1 very well, and then maybe the military perverted their long military tradition and also mistreated their own people which led to the atrocities. It's odd that this collective insanity seemed to take countries over like this in the 30's and 40's.

                        That is the same observation and argument the historian Ian W. Toll makes in his trilogy on war in the Pacific. He specifically points out that it was the Japanese army which perverted the military’s thinking into the direction of wanton brutality. The Imperial Navy top echelons on the other hand, tried to resist the trend but to little or no avail.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Paying for a 75¢ product but taking away a 125¢ product is quite clearly “theft,” and “theft” is “crime.”

                          What’s “not crime” are things like teachers posting twerking videos or doing OnlyFans side gigs or teaching sex-ed or teaching civil rights history or advocating for diversity/equity/inclusion — many U.S. school districts fire them for such “non-crimes” anyway.

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                          @Axtremus said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

                          Paying for a 75¢ product but taking away a 125¢ product is quite clearly “theft,” and “theft” is “crime.”

                          What’s “not crime” are things like teachers posting twerking videos or doing OnlyFans side gigs or teaching sex-ed or teaching civil rights history or advocating for diversity/equity/inclusion — many U.S. school districts fire them for such “non-crimes” anyway.

                          I love how you equate starting in porn videos along with teaching Civil Rights

                          The Brad

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

                            I don't really understand what happened to Japan in WW2. I've read that the Japanese treated POW's in WW1 very well, and then maybe the military perverted their long military tradition and also mistreated their own people which led to the atrocities. It's odd that this collective insanity seemed to take countries over like this in the 30's and 40's.

                            That is the same observation and argument the historian Ian W. Toll makes in his trilogy on war in the Pacific. He specifically points out that it was the Japanese army which perverted the military’s thinking into the direction of wanton brutality. The Imperial Navy top echelons on the other hand, tried to resist the trend but to little or no avail.

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                            @Renauda said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

                            Japanese army which perverted the military’s thinking into the direction of wanton brutality.

                            If you have ever hear about the "Rape of Nanking", it is shocking and horrifying what was done there. I just cant understand how someone could treat another someone that way.

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @Renauda said in Different Culture - Different Thoughts on What is Crime:

                              Japanese army which perverted the military’s thinking into the direction of wanton brutality.

                              If you have ever hear about the "Rape of Nanking", it is shocking and horrifying what was done there. I just cant understand how someone could treat another someone that way.

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                              @taiwan_girl

                              Rape of Nanking…

                              Indeed, one the vilest atrocities of Imperial Japanese Army. Overall the Japanese army and, in particular, the Kwantung Army in China was every bit as brutal and fanatical as the Nazi SS or the Nazi Einsatzgruppen that operated on the Eastern front in what is now, Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Saw George's thread that brought me to this one.

                                This article goes into the qualities that make a country safe. Of course wealth, education, justice system... I know Singapore comes to mind when I hear of safe countries. I've heard you could leave an Apple MacBook Pro out on a counter top in a coffee shop all day and it will not get stolen.

                                That being said, there are hard to define (and politically incorrect, I guess) reasons why some countries are safe, too. I'd say very generally there needs to be a collective culture that expects safety and has a unified set of values. It's hard to have that in poorer countries, or countries with external conflicts, or countries (like the US) that is a melting pot a mixed salad of cultures with some resistant to assimilation for a more homo cultural experience. Homogeneous, of course.

                                https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/safest-countries-in-the-world

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