I support the legislation.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 11:29 last edited by
I think there should be more civil forfeiture.
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I think there should be more civil forfeiture.
wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 11:36 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in I support the legislation.:
I think there should be more civil forfeiture.
Wanker!
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 11:38 last edited by
I’ve only seen two people come out against this, Jeff Sessions and Copper.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 12:12 last edited by Mik
Way, way too many stories of abuse. You might be able to convince me if the law could be written such that clear proof existed that the asset was ill gotten. As it is it is often just assumed.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 12:29 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in I support the legislation.:
I’ve only seen two people come out against this, Jeff Sessions and Copper.
What am I, chopped liver?
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 13:55 last edited by Larry
Back in the early 2000s I gave my son a car. I had bought a new one, and gave him my 4 year old Lincoln Town Car. My son had been in and out of trouble with pills, but had spent a year in jail and completed a rehab program, had a decent job, and was honestly trying to get his life together. Three or four months after I gave him the car, a friend of his called him and asked to borrow 20 bucks. My son should have known he was being set up, because you don't call someone asking to borrow money and then ask them to bring it to you.
Anyway, he drove to the friend's apartment building to hand him the 20 bucks, his friend walked up to the car window, grabbed the 20, and then tossed a bottle of pills in the window. My son said he got out of his car and walked in the direction his friend had ran in telling him he didn't want them when he suddenly found himself surrounded by police. I never trusted anything my son told me prior to this, but I do believe he was telling me the truth about this.
He was arrested for selling illegal drugs, the car was taken, and he ended up going to prison for I think 2 years. They sold the car even though it was still in my name, and even though he was not actually in the car when they arrested him. The whole thing was a setup - one more drug arrest for the books and quick revenue for the county.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 13:58 last edited by
Jesus Larry.
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Back in the early 2000s I gave my son a car. I had bought a new one, and gave him my 4 year old Lincoln Town Car. My son had been in and out of trouble with pills, but had spent a year in jail and completed a rehab program, had a decent job, and was honestly trying to get his life together. Three or four months after I gave him the car, a friend of his called him and asked to borrow 20 bucks. My son should have known he was being set up, because you don't call someone asking to borrow money and then ask them to bring it to you.
Anyway, he drove to the friend's apartment building to hand him the 20 bucks, his friend walked up to the car window, grabbed the 20, and then tossed a bottle of pills in the window. My son said he got out of his car and walked in the direction his friend had ran in telling him he didn't want them when he suddenly found himself surrounded by police. I never trusted anything my son told me prior to this, but I do believe he was telling me the truth about this.
He was arrested for selling illegal drugs, the car was taken, and he ended up going to prison for I think 2 years. They sold the car even though it was still in my name, and even though he was not actually in the car when they arrested him. The whole thing was a setup - one more drug arrest for the books and quick revenue for the county.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 14:48 last edited by
God, that sounds awful, Larry.
The war on drugs hasn't been very successful thus far, even with this terrible scheme in place.
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Yeah that's been a travesty forever. Maybe people of all political stripes can unite behind that one.
wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 15:08 last edited by@Horace said in I support the legislation.:
Yeah that's been a travesty forever. Maybe people of all political stripes can unite behind that one.
I think it might depend on timing. If one group makes it clear early on that they're against it, the other might pick the opposite just, y'know, 'cause.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 15:26 last edited by
Very sorry to hear Larry.
Didn't know you had kids. How many do you have? -
Back in the early 2000s I gave my son a car. I had bought a new one, and gave him my 4 year old Lincoln Town Car. My son had been in and out of trouble with pills, but had spent a year in jail and completed a rehab program, had a decent job, and was honestly trying to get his life together. Three or four months after I gave him the car, a friend of his called him and asked to borrow 20 bucks. My son should have known he was being set up, because you don't call someone asking to borrow money and then ask them to bring it to you.
Anyway, he drove to the friend's apartment building to hand him the 20 bucks, his friend walked up to the car window, grabbed the 20, and then tossed a bottle of pills in the window. My son said he got out of his car and walked in the direction his friend had ran in telling him he didn't want them when he suddenly found himself surrounded by police. I never trusted anything my son told me prior to this, but I do believe he was telling me the truth about this.
He was arrested for selling illegal drugs, the car was taken, and he ended up going to prison for I think 2 years. They sold the car even though it was still in my name, and even though he was not actually in the car when they arrested him. The whole thing was a setup - one more drug arrest for the books and quick revenue for the county.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 16:02 last edited by
@ILM said in I support the legislation.:
Very sorry to hear Larry.
Didn't know you had kids. How many do you have?Kids? Shucks, he's got grandkids!
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@Larry what was the motivation of that "friend" for doing this to your son?
How's your son doing now?
wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 23:25 last edited by@Klaus said in I support the legislation.:
@Larry what was the motivation of that "friend" for doing this to your son?
How's your son doing now?
Apparently the police catch young guys who are using, scare them to death with descriptions of prison life, and then tell them if they can help them entrap X number of people selling drugs theyll let the kid go. So this kid turned on my son to get out of his jamb, and neither he nor the police cared how justified the arrest was.
My son came to visit me back in February. First time I'd even heard from him in several years. He came in the house, gave me that overdone hug you get from people who are faking it but trying to con you, never asked a thing about how I was doing, told my wife she was gorgeous and then stared at her the rest of his visit. He asked me if I still owned this or that, if the 3 antique trucks were still in a barn, and after taking a mental inventory of what he might come and get after I cack, proceeded tell me all about the contrails that jet planes make being government spraying mind control chemicals on us, he works at the airport in Washington DC and every pilot hes talked to has assured him its true, and the earth is not round, its flat, every pilot knows it, and oh by the way the ram logo on my truck parked in the drive is a satanic signal, he knows because hes studied the masonic lodge.when I finally couldn't hold it in any more and chuckled a little, he stared at the floor for a few seconds, stood up and said "I don't have to take this shit", walked out, got in his car and left. Not before throwing half a dozen or so empty Mou train Dew cans onto my driveway.
Haven't heard from him since. I figure he's either been abducted by space aliens, accidentally drove off the edge of the earth, or got too close to a contrail and got sprayed
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 23:35 last edited by
@ILM said in I support the legislation.:
Very sorry to hear Larry.
Didn't know you had kids. How many do you have?Two kids, 3 grandkids.apparently I didn't die quick enough and their mom got tired of checking.
Both my kids take after their mother, by the way....
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@Klaus said in I support the legislation.:
@Larry what was the motivation of that "friend" for doing this to your son?
How's your son doing now?
Apparently the police catch young guys who are using, scare them to death with descriptions of prison life, and then tell them if they can help them entrap X number of people selling drugs theyll let the kid go. So this kid turned on my son to get out of his jamb, and neither he nor the police cared how justified the arrest was.
My son came to visit me back in February. First time I'd even heard from him in several years. He came in the house, gave me that overdone hug you get from people who are faking it but trying to con you, never asked a thing about how I was doing, told my wife she was gorgeous and then stared at her the rest of his visit. He asked me if I still owned this or that, if the 3 antique trucks were still in a barn, and after taking a mental inventory of what he might come and get after I cack, proceeded tell me all about the contrails that jet planes make being government spraying mind control chemicals on us, he works at the airport in Washington DC and every pilot hes talked to has assured him its true, and the earth is not round, its flat, every pilot knows it, and oh by the way the ram logo on my truck parked in the drive is a satanic signal, he knows because hes studied the masonic lodge.when I finally couldn't hold it in any more and chuckled a little, he stared at the floor for a few seconds, stood up and said "I don't have to take this shit", walked out, got in his car and left. Not before throwing half a dozen or so empty Mou train Dew cans onto my driveway.
Haven't heard from him since. I figure he's either been abducted by space aliens, accidentally drove off the edge of the earth, or got too close to a contrail and got sprayed
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wrote on 13 Jul 2020, 23:44 last edited by
Thanks George, but I got over the hurt a long time ago.
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 00:46 last edited by
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 00:49 last edited by
Larry - what are your grandkids like? Any better than their parents?
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 01:45 last edited by
I don't know, but if I was to guess I'd say all 3 are entitled little self centered shits.
