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I support the legislation.

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by Horace
    #2

    Yeah that's been a travesty forever. Maybe people of all political stripes can unite behind that one.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Axtremus
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      #3

      It’s always a good time to disincentivize, limit, or even eliminate civil forfeiture.
      Git ‘r done!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #4

        I’m in.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          I’m in.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by Jolly
            #6

            TNCR agreement?

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            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
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              #7

              Hallelujah!

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
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                #8

                Yea!

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  I think there should be more civil forfeiture.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    I think there should be more civil forfeiture.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in I support the legislation.:

                    I think there should be more civil forfeiture.

                    Wanker!

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      I’ve only seen two people come out against this, Jeff Sessions and Copper.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                        #12

                        Way, way too many stories of abuse. You might be able to convince me if the law could be written such that clear proof existed that the asset was ill gotten. As it is it is often just assumed.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          I’ve only seen two people come out against this, Jeff Sessions and Copper.

                          Doctor PhibesD Online
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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @jon-nyc said in I support the legislation.:

                          I’ve only seen two people come out against this, Jeff Sessions and Copper.

                          What am I, chopped liver?

                          I was only joking

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                          • LarryL Offline
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                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by Larry
                            #14

                            Back in the early 2000s I gave my son a car. I had bought a new one, and gave him my 4 year old Lincoln Town Car. My son had been in and out of trouble with pills, but had spent a year in jail and completed a rehab program, had a decent job, and was honestly trying to get his life together. Three or four months after I gave him the car, a friend of his called him and asked to borrow 20 bucks. My son should have known he was being set up, because you don't call someone asking to borrow money and then ask them to bring it to you.

                            Anyway, he drove to the friend's apartment building to hand him the 20 bucks, his friend walked up to the car window, grabbed the 20, and then tossed a bottle of pills in the window. My son said he got out of his car and walked in the direction his friend had ran in telling him he didn't want them when he suddenly found himself surrounded by police. I never trusted anything my son told me prior to this, but I do believe he was telling me the truth about this.

                            He was arrested for selling illegal drugs, the car was taken, and he ended up going to prison for I think 2 years. They sold the car even though it was still in my name, and even though he was not actually in the car when they arrested him. The whole thing was a setup - one more drug arrest for the books and quick revenue for the county.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #15

                              Jesus Larry.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • LarryL Larry

                                Back in the early 2000s I gave my son a car. I had bought a new one, and gave him my 4 year old Lincoln Town Car. My son had been in and out of trouble with pills, but had spent a year in jail and completed a rehab program, had a decent job, and was honestly trying to get his life together. Three or four months after I gave him the car, a friend of his called him and asked to borrow 20 bucks. My son should have known he was being set up, because you don't call someone asking to borrow money and then ask them to bring it to you.

                                Anyway, he drove to the friend's apartment building to hand him the 20 bucks, his friend walked up to the car window, grabbed the 20, and then tossed a bottle of pills in the window. My son said he got out of his car and walked in the direction his friend had ran in telling him he didn't want them when he suddenly found himself surrounded by police. I never trusted anything my son told me prior to this, but I do believe he was telling me the truth about this.

                                He was arrested for selling illegal drugs, the car was taken, and he ended up going to prison for I think 2 years. They sold the car even though it was still in my name, and even though he was not actually in the car when they arrested him. The whole thing was a setup - one more drug arrest for the books and quick revenue for the county.

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                                mark
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                                #16

                                @Larry Wow, that is horrible. I am all for getting rid of this totalitarian tactic.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  God, that sounds awful, Larry.

                                  The war on drugs hasn't been very successful thus far, even with this terrible scheme in place.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    Yeah that's been a travesty forever. Maybe people of all political stripes can unite behind that one.

                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    @Horace said in I support the legislation.:

                                    Yeah that's been a travesty forever. Maybe people of all political stripes can unite behind that one.

                                    I think it might depend on timing. If one group makes it clear early on that they're against it, the other might pick the opposite just, y'know, 'cause.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • I Offline
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                                      ILM
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      Very sorry to hear Larry.
                                      Didn't know you had kids. How many do you have?

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                                      • LarryL Larry

                                        Back in the early 2000s I gave my son a car. I had bought a new one, and gave him my 4 year old Lincoln Town Car. My son had been in and out of trouble with pills, but had spent a year in jail and completed a rehab program, had a decent job, and was honestly trying to get his life together. Three or four months after I gave him the car, a friend of his called him and asked to borrow 20 bucks. My son should have known he was being set up, because you don't call someone asking to borrow money and then ask them to bring it to you.

                                        Anyway, he drove to the friend's apartment building to hand him the 20 bucks, his friend walked up to the car window, grabbed the 20, and then tossed a bottle of pills in the window. My son said he got out of his car and walked in the direction his friend had ran in telling him he didn't want them when he suddenly found himself surrounded by police. I never trusted anything my son told me prior to this, but I do believe he was telling me the truth about this.

                                        He was arrested for selling illegal drugs, the car was taken, and he ended up going to prison for I think 2 years. They sold the car even though it was still in my name, and even though he was not actually in the car when they arrested him. The whole thing was a setup - one more drug arrest for the books and quick revenue for the county.

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on last edited by Klaus
                                        #20

                                        @Larry what was the motivation of that "friend" for doing this to your son?

                                        How's your son doing now?

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                                        • I ILM

                                          Very sorry to hear Larry.
                                          Didn't know you had kids. How many do you have?

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          @ILM said in I support the legislation.:

                                          Very sorry to hear Larry.
                                          Didn't know you had kids. How many do you have?

                                          Kids? Shucks, he's got grandkids!

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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