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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    I think if you use last year’s taxes as your guide you’ll be fine. See Avoid a Penalty.

    https://www.irs.gov/payments/underpayment-of-estimated-tax-by-individuals-penalty

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      That "consolidated form" also has a 1099-B section.

      We'll see if Turbotax can import that stuff.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Thanks, @89th ! I should be getting that statement in mid-February and I'll see what happens. I was able to import everything else with no issue, whatsoever. If you look at the first screenshot I posted, that should be all the information they need, right?

        Another question: Estimated payments.

        I expect my income to be similar to what it was in 2023 - just make the same estimated payments as I did last year? In the past the accountants have suggested the quarterly amount to pay. If I underpay, there are penalties, right?

        89th8 Offline
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        89th
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        #6

        @George-K said in TurboTax question:

        Thanks, @89th ! I should be getting that statement in mid-February and I'll see what happens. I was able to import everything else with no issue, whatsoever. If you look at the first screenshot I posted, that should be all the information they need, right?

        IIRC what I did last year, yes. I do my taxes manually (I enter information throughout the Income and Deduction sections, but I just remembered I think it did auto-import that data from my brokerage account, I used Merrill Lynch), so that made it easy.

        You know, worth a shot in TurboTax, it doesn't take too long in that system and if you're not comfortable you don't have to submit. (I've used TurboTax for the past 15 years)

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          I get a consolidated 1099 and put it in TurboTax just fine.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I get a consolidated 1099 and put it in TurboTax just fine.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #8

            @jon-nyc said in TurboTax question:

            I get a consolidated 1099 and put it in TurboTax just fine.

            Just drop the 40 page PDF into their window?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              I don't really believe in taxes.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                While we’re on the subject… One of the companies Karla subs too made them actual employees this year, but didn’t reimburse for things like mileage and other strictly job related expenses that comes with the job. How do you claim the mileage when you aren’t self employed for that portion?

                The Brad

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                • George KG George K

                  @jon-nyc said in TurboTax question:

                  I get a consolidated 1099 and put it in TurboTax just fine.

                  Just drop the 40 page PDF into their window?

                  89th8 Offline
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                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  @George-K said in TurboTax question:

                  @jon-nyc said in TurboTax question:

                  I get a consolidated 1099 and put it in TurboTax just fine.

                  Just drop the 40 page PDF into their window?

                  I think they also offer the option of entering the brokerage's (you wife's) log-in credentials into the system and they'll automatically pull it for you.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    While we’re on the subject… One of the companies Karla subs too made them actual employees this year, but didn’t reimburse for things like mileage and other strictly job related expenses that comes with the job. How do you claim the mileage when you aren’t self employed for that portion?

                    89th8 Offline
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                    89th
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    @LuFins-Dad said in TurboTax question:

                    While we’re on the subject… One of the companies Karla subs too made them actual employees this year, but didn’t reimburse for things like mileage and other strictly job related expenses that comes with the job. How do you claim the mileage when you aren’t self employed for that portion?

                    Don't think you can. For W-2 work, you can't deduct mileage expenses, etc.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      @LuFins-Dad said in TurboTax question:

                      While we’re on the subject… One of the companies Karla subs too made them actual employees this year, but didn’t reimburse for things like mileage and other strictly job related expenses that comes with the job. How do you claim the mileage when you aren’t self employed for that portion?

                      Don't think you can. For W-2 work, you can't deduct mileage expenses, etc.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by Jolly
                      #13

                      @89th said in TurboTax question:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in TurboTax question:

                      While we’re on the subject… One of the companies Karla subs too made them actual employees this year, but didn’t reimburse for things like mileage and other strictly job related expenses that comes with the job. How do you claim the mileage when you aren’t self employed for that portion?

                      Don't think you can. For W-2 work, you can't deduct mileage expenses, etc.

                      I'm not sure about that...

                      Correction...The law changed in 2020.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG George K

                        When I was working, our business manager's office did our income taxes for us. It was one of the perks of working there.

                        When I retired, I used them for about 3 years, but the fees they charged for a simple tax return simply weren't worth it for my situation, so I went with a local CPA.

                        She's done a reasonable job, I guess (can you ever really know?), but my taxes are really simple.

                        I have income from four sources (two retirement accounts for me, one for Mrs. George, and our Social Security.

                        So, I thought using Turbotax would be an easy way for me to file - but, there's one thing I'm not sure TT can handle. Mrs. George has an individual brokerage account, and in mid-February, they send out a "consolidated" 1099 form - 1099-INT, and 1099-DIV.

                        Turbotax was great at parsing my other 1099s but I wonder if it'll be able to do a 40-page form like this.

                        Sample of the info - with personal stuff redacted.

                        Screenshot 2024-02-01 at 8.00.50 AM.png

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                        CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #14

                        @George-K said in TurboTax question:

                        Turbotax was great at parsing my other 1099s but I wonder if it'll be able to do a 40-page form like this.

                        I put my 1099s from Charles Schwab directly into Turbo Tax, no paper involved. I have been using it for a number of years, I don't remember exactly what I did to set it up. Now it remembers what I did last year and asks if I want to do it again. Then TT has me log-in to Schwab and it downloads everything.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @89th said in TurboTax question:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in TurboTax question:

                          While we’re on the subject… One of the companies Karla subs too made them actual employees this year, but didn’t reimburse for things like mileage and other strictly job related expenses that comes with the job. How do you claim the mileage when you aren’t self employed for that portion?

                          Don't think you can. For W-2 work, you can't deduct mileage expenses, etc.

                          I'm not sure about that...

                          Correction...The law changed in 2020.

                          MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #15

                          @Jolly said in TurboTax question:

                          @89th said in TurboTax question:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in TurboTax question:

                          While we’re on the subject… One of the companies Karla subs too made them actual employees this year, but didn’t reimburse for things like mileage and other strictly job related expenses that comes with the job. How do you claim the mileage when you aren’t self employed for that portion?

                          Don't think you can. For W-2 work, you can't deduct mileage expenses, etc.

                          I'm not sure about that...

                          Correction...The law changed in 2020.

                          Wouldn’t it be an unreimbursed business expense?

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            Can't deduct it unless you're a "qualified" employee, in which most folks are not

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                              #17

                              What’s the definition of a qualified employee?

                              This is going to suck, because fully 1/3 of her business deductions are no longer allowed. Her home office expenses, computer, business phone, etc…

                              And do you have any idea how difficult tracking her mileage becomes now? This is a nightmare.

                              The Brad

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                Geez, this is confusing...some clarity?

                                https://www.irs.gov/publications/p463

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  I’m going to have to take this to the TurboTax help line.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Geez, this is confusing...some clarity?

                                    https://www.irs.gov/publications/p463

                                    89th8 Offline
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                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @Jolly said in TurboTax question:

                                    Geez, this is confusing...some clarity?

                                    https://www.irs.gov/publications/p463

                                    This is a bit clearer:

                                    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-who-qualifies-for-the-employee-business-expense-deduction

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      What’s the definition of a qualified employee?

                                      This is going to suck, because fully 1/3 of her business deductions are no longer allowed. Her home office expenses, computer, business phone, etc…

                                      And do you have any idea how difficult tracking her mileage becomes now? This is a nightmare.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in TurboTax question:

                                      What’s the definition of a qualified employee?

                                      This is going to suck, because fully 1/3 of her business deductions are no longer allowed. Her home office expenses, computer, business phone, etc…

                                      And do you have any idea how difficult tracking her mileage becomes now? This is a nightmare.

                                      Could always just divide it by 2/3 and clarify if an auditor ever asks that 1/3 of her work is as a W-2 employee. The company should be reimbursing her, btw. Not legally, but morally/policy/etc.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @George-K said in TurboTax question:

                                        @jon-nyc said in TurboTax question:

                                        I get a consolidated 1099 and put it in TurboTax just fine.

                                        Just drop the 40 page PDF into their window?

                                        I think they also offer the option of entering the brokerage's (you wife's) log-in credentials into the system and they'll automatically pull it for you.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #22

                                        @89th said in TurboTax question:

                                        @George-K said in TurboTax question:

                                        @jon-nyc said in TurboTax question:

                                        I get a consolidated 1099 and put it in TurboTax just fine.

                                        Just drop the 40 page PDF into their window?

                                        I think they also offer the option of entering the brokerage's (you wife's) log-in credentials into the system and they'll automatically pull it for you.

                                        This

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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