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DeWine vetos bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for trans youth

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  • MikM Mik

    DeWine also stated he'd be looking at options for banning surgery under 18. So let's not pretend the governor is all woke. Far from it.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ohio-gov-mike-dewine-vetoes-house-bill-68-on-transgender-medical-care-sports/ar-AA1mavMr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=61bc7d814d3245f7954e92334259519f&ei=11

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    @Mik said in DeWine vetos bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for trans youth:

    DeWine also stated he'd be looking at options for banning surgery under 18. So let's not pretend the governor is all woke. Far from it.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ohio-gov-mike-dewine-vetoes-house-bill-68-on-transgender-medical-care-sports/ar-AA1mavMr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=61bc7d814d3245f7954e92334259519f&ei=11

    Surgeries? The danger with these kids are puberty blockers and socially transitioning. By the time they get to surgery they’ve already been abused.

    I get it, you like Dewine and his more moderate policies. In most cases I do, too. But this is a subject that you can’t give an inch on. What is happening to these kids is evil, and to just pass it off to being between a parent and the doctors is just absolving oneself from taking a tough stand on a tough issue. The school districts are absolutely filled with activists pushing this crap down kids throats and it is ruining their lives and relationships.

    The Brad

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Beat me by 2 minutes…. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ohio-senate-overrides-governors-veto-of-bill-banning-trans-medical-procedures-for-minors-restricting-sports-participation/

        The Brad

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          @George-K said in DeWine vetos bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for trans youth:

          So Riley Gaines is embracing her new career as social commentator.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @George-K said in DeWine vetos bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for trans youth:

            So Riley Gaines is embracing her new career as social commentator.

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            @Horace said in DeWine vetos bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for trans youth:

            So Riley Gaines is embracing her new career as social commentator.

            Noticed that, did you, LOL.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Well, that was a political thumping...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Well, that was a political thumping...

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                @Jolly said in DeWine vetos bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for trans youth:

                Well, that was a political thumping...

                60% majority required.

                They got 75%,

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Interesting, looks like a completely party line vote, but with 2 Republican Senators voting against the override, and 6 Reps that didn’t vote.

                  The Brad

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                    I still think DeWine was mostly right. The bill is just blatantly anti-trans reactionary. The medical and sports participation issues should have been handled separately. The GOP needs to avoid overreaching.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      The needs of the many...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        That certainly applies to the athletics side of this. My daughter tried to tell me there aren't that many so it's not an issue. It is to the legitimate women who have spent their life training for these events. In any event not many is unacceptable when there should be none. I don't believe transitioning is ever going to be widely accepted as normal.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          It shouldn't be. Most of the stuff today has its roots in mass hysteria and mental illness.

                          Why is it we think somebody has a disease when they want to cut off their arm, but we're just fine with cutting off their penis.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            In a country where some states are taking kids away from their parents if they refuse to allow transition, and in a world where 50 year old perverts are being allowed to change in dressing rooms with teenage girls and compete with them on a teenage girl’s swimming team, if Ohio is going to make error, I would rather it be in this direction.

                            The Brad

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