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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #8

    Oh...

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/06/pentagon-took-3-days-to-inform-white-houses-nsc-of-austins-hospitalization-00134176

    The Pentagon did not tell President Joe Biden and other top officials about Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s hospitalization for three days, three U.S. officials said.

    National security adviser Jake Sullivan and other senior White House aides didn’t know of Austin’s Jan. 1 hospitalization until the Defense Department sent over word Jan. 4, two other U.S. officials said. Sullivan informed Biden shortly after DOD’s Thursday notification.

    The officials said it was highly unlikely that Austin conveyed word to Biden privately before Sullivan’s briefing. “If Jake didn’t know, no way the president knew,” one of them said. “Who would have told him of Austin’s condition if not Jake? And if someone did tell the president, Jake would’ve been his first call.”

    All officials and other people who spoke for this story were granted anonymity to discuss a sensitive issue.

    The news of Austin’s situation came as a shock to all White House staff as they were unaware the Pentagon boss was dealing with complications following an elective medical procedure, the officials said. National Security Council staffers were surprised it took the Pentagon so long to let them know of Austin’s status. The Pentagon didn’t make the information public until Friday evening, notifying Congress about 15 minutes before releasing a public statement.

    “This should not have happened this way,” said one of the U.S. officials. The NSC and Pentagon declined comment.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      Oh...again.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        Well, y’know, the world’s at peace and all. No worries.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #11

          Democracy dies in darkness, don'tcha know.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #12

            No one mandated or available to run the place in his absence?

            If not then it’s yet another reason I prefer the Westminster system of governance.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              No one mandated or available to run the place in his absence?

              If not then it’s yet another reason I prefer the Westminster system of governance.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @Renauda said in Sec Def hospitalized:

              No one mandated or available to run the place in his absence?

              If not then it’s yet another reason I prefer the Westminster system of governance.

              We don't know, do we?

              The (P )resident of the United States was unaware.

              Let me rephrase.

              The President of the United States was unaware, for THREE DAYS, that his Secretary of War Defense was incapacitated.

              I'm sure someone was there to pick up the baton, but don't you think that POTATUS should have been notified?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #14

                I guess that so long as the WH Chief of Staff knows it’s A Okay.

                He did know didn’t he?

                Not that I really care, mind you.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  I guess that so long as the WH Chief of Staff knows it’s A Okay.

                  He did know didn’t he?

                  Not that I really care, mind you.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  @Renauda said in Sec Def hospitalized:

                  I guess that so long as the WH Chief of Staff knows it’s A Okay.

                  He did know didn’t he?

                  Unclear. But if he did, the problem is even bigger. Shouldn't he notify POTUS? I mean, his job is to advise POTUS as to what's happening (see picture of Bush II and Card). If he knew and didn't notify POTUS, he should be fired.

                  "The news of Austin’s situation came as a shock to all White House staff."

                  That, presumably included the Chief of STAFF.

                  And, NSA advisor Sullivan was unaware, FFS.

                  At least POTUS was on the job.

                  Wait, he was on vacation. I suppose that's forgivable, since he didn't know.

                  Not that I really care, mind you.

                  That's the @Renauda we know and love.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    Notwithstanding my own personal apathy on the matter, perhaps a memo got misdirected somewhere along the chain of command..

                    Elbows up!

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
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                      #17

                      The president was told.

                      There was no way he could remember.

                      So he didn’t know.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #18

                        Wait, the Deputy SecDef was on VACATION when Austin was hospitalized?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          Wait, the Deputy SecDef was on VACATION when Austin was hospitalized?

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          @George-K said in Sec Def hospitalized:

                          Wait, the Deputy SecDef was on VACATION when Austin was hospitalized?

                          Yeah, and she didn't know that Austin was out of commission.

                          When the deputy secretary of defense began assuming some of Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s responsibilities on January 2, not even she knew that it was because Austin was hospitalized, two defense officials told CNN.

                          Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks, the Pentagon’s number two leader, was among the senior leaders kept in the dark about Austin’s true whereabouts until Thursday, three days after the secretary checked into Walter Reed medical center following complications from an elective surgery. Not even the president was aware of Austin’s hospitalization until three days into his stay there, CNN previously reported.

                          The revelation that not even Hicks knew that Austin was hospitalized is sure to add to questions swirling within the administration about why his status was kept secret, not only from the public but from senior national security officials and the White House.

                          Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday he had not been aware that Austin had been hospitalized. The two spoke the weekend before Austin was hospitalized on New Year’s Day, Blinken said at a news conference in Qatar, but he declined to engage in “hypotheticals” when asked what his own notification policy would be if he were hospitalized. Blinken called Austin an “extraordinary leader” and wished him a full recovery.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            Somebody needs to resign.

                            Now.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              If I were POTUS, I'd want Austin's resignation on my desk yesterday.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                Wait.

                                I didn't think it was possible to get worse.

                                Joint Chiefs - "Hold our beer."

                                Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. C.Q. Brown was not informed of Austin’s situation until Tuesday, the day after his hospitalization, a senior Defense Department official told POLITICO on Sunday. Even Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks, who assumed some of his duties while he was in the hospital, did not know his whereabouts until Thursday, a second senior DOD official said after CNN first reported the news.

                                So the Chair of the Joint Chiefs knew on Tuesday, but didn't talk to the White House until Thursday?

                                Another resignation, please.

                                The Pentagon says the delay in notifying senior administration officials about Austin’s hospitalization was partly due to the fact his his chief of staff was also out with her own illness at the same time.

                                Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #23

                                  The upper echelons of government cannot possibly expect us to accept “someone was out of the office”. Dunder Mifflin.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
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                                    #24

                                    Can you imagine if the CEO of a company went MIA for 4 days and no one knew where he was?

                                    Well, not "no one," obviously. Some people knew, and they're not talking.

                                    The board would be holding an emergency meeting to discuss dismissal.

                                    And...no word on what happened. My money's still on a colonoscopy gone sour.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #25

                                      If we assume Biden isn't running the country, this all makes sense.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Can you imagine if the CEO of a company went MIA for 4 days and no one knew where he was?

                                        Well, not "no one," obviously. Some people knew, and they're not talking.

                                        The board would be holding an emergency meeting to discuss dismissal.

                                        And...no word on what happened. My money's still on a colonoscopy gone sour.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @George-K

                                        My money's still on a colonoscopy gone sour.

                                        Given the environment down there I cannot imagine one going any other way.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          #27

                                          https://apnews.com/article/defense-secretary-lloyd-austin-hospitalized-biden-859cc79631d6c96dbdff161faf8e4f96

                                          The Pentagon released new details Sunday about Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s continued hospitalization, saying he had a medical procedure Dec. 22, went home a day later and was admitted to intensive care Jan. 1 when he began experiencing severe pain.

                                          So he had something done and spent the night (what?). Took 10 days for him to get REALLY sick necessiting an ICU admission.

                                          A colon perf probably, probably, would have manifested itself sooner. Did he have a cardiac cath and suffered complications?

                                          So what happened when he was hospitalized and #2 was on vacay?

                                          • On December 31, “U.S. Navy helicopters returned fire and sank three small boats carrying Houthi militants in the Red Sea.”
                                          • On January 2, “The United States has quietly reached an agreement that extends its military presence at a sprawling base in Qatar for another 10 years. . . . The Al Udeid Air Base, located in the desert southwest of Doha, is the biggest US military installation in the Middle East.”
                                          • On January 3, “Two explosions killed nearly 100 people and wounded scores at a ceremony in Iran on Wednesday to commemorate commander Qassem Soleimani ”; the following day, ISIS claimed credit for the attack.
                                          • On January 4, “U.S. forces in Iraq today conducted a self-defense strike which killed Mushtaq Jawad Kazim al-Jawari, a leader of the Iran-backed Harakat al-Nujaba terrorist group that is operating both in Iraq and Syria.” Two days later, Iraqi prime minister Shia al-Sudani’s office said his “government is setting the date for the start of the bilateral committee to put arrangements to end the presence of the international coalition forces in Iraq permanently.”
                                            Also on January 4, Vice Admiral Brad Cooper, commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, confirmed that the U.S. Navy had “shot down 61 drones and missiles total since this began a couple of months ago,” and confirmed that for the first time, the Houthis had used “an armed unmanned surface vessel launched from Houthi-controlled Yemen.” The USV “got within a ‘couple of miles’ of U.S. Navy and commercial vessels in the Red Sea before detonating on Thursday.”

                                          "In the very best of hands...

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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