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Happy Kwaanza!

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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Kwaanza!:

    I said let's not even get into religion, yet it's the first thing you mentioned.

    You're not the boss of me.

    I honestly don't know how these celebrations evolved in any detail, but I don't think the Kwanzaa invention is necessarily any different from a lot of others, it's just more recent.

    I really don't care, to be honest. It just made me laugh that LD said Kwanzaa was made up, when clearly the details of a lot of holidays are also made up. If somebody wants to celebrate, great - what's the problem?

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Happy Kwaanza!:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Kwaanza!:

    I said let's not even get into religion, yet it's the first thing you mentioned.

    You're not the boss of me.

    I honestly don't know how these celebrations evolved in any detail, but I don't think the Kwanzaa invention is necessarily any different from a lot of others, it's just more recent.

    I really don't care, to be honest. It just made me laugh that LD said Kwanzaa was made up, when clearly the details of a lot of holidays are also made up.

    So to recap, you admittedly know very little about the Christmas holiday but feel comfortable saying it's exactly the same as one founded by a felon convicted of torturing, assault, and false imprisonment of women, because it's all made up anyway.

    Please love yourself.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #14

      Sure, whatever.

      I was only joking

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        Renauda
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        #15

        I have always understood that Xmas evolved from or out of Roman winter solstice festivals Saturnalia and Sol Invictus.

        As for Kwanzaa, don’t know, don’t care to know and, frankly, don’t wish to hear about it.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          I have always understood that Xmas evolved from or out of Roman winter solstice festivals Saturnalia and Sol Invictus.

          As for Kwanzaa, don’t know, don’t care to know and, frankly, don’t wish to hear about it.

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          @Renauda said in Happy Kwaanza!:

          I have always understood that Xmas evolved from or out of Roman winter the solstice festivals Saturnalia and Sol Invictus.

          That's true, but it wasn't just the Romans who contributed. Not even by half. You could fill entire encyclopedias on the story of Christmas and how we got where we are today.

          Anthropologists love convergent evolution and there's a ton of that with Christmas.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Renauda said in Happy Kwaanza!:

            I have always understood that Xmas evolved from or out of Roman winter the solstice festivals Saturnalia and Sol Invictus.

            That's true, but it wasn't just the Romans who contributed. Not even by half. You could fill entire encyclopedias on the story of Christmas and how we got where we are today.

            Anthropologists love convergent evolution and there's a ton of that with Christmas.

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            @Aqua-Letifer

            You could fill entire encyclopedias on the story of Christmas and how we got where we are today.

            That, I have no doubt.

            Elbows up!

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              #18

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwanzaa

              American black separatist[4] Maulana Karenga created Kwanzaa in 1966 during the aftermath of the Watts riots[5] as a non-Christian,[6] specifically African-American, holiday.

              That's where I stopped celebrating.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                I said let's not even get into religion, yet it's the first thing you mentioned.

                You're not the boss of me.

                I honestly don't know how these celebrations evolved in any detail, but I don't think the Kwanzaa invention is necessarily any different from a lot of others, it's just more recent.

                I really don't care, to be honest. It just made me laugh that LD said Kwanzaa was made up, when clearly the details of a lot of holidays are also made up. If somebody wants to celebrate, great - what's the problem?

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                LuFins Dad
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                I said let's not even get into religion, yet it's the first thing you mentioned.

                You're not the boss of me.

                I honestly don't know how these celebrations evolved in any detail, but I don't think the Kwanzaa invention is necessarily any different from a lot of others, it's just more recent.

                I really don't care, to be honest. It just made me laugh that LD said Kwanzaa was made up, when clearly the details of a lot of holidays are also made up. If somebody wants to celebrate, great - what's the problem?

                Apparently, not much of anybody does want to celebrate... 6 times more people celebrate Festivus than Kwanzaa... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=festivus,kwanzaa 2023&geo=US

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                  I said let's not even get into religion, yet it's the first thing you mentioned.

                  You're not the boss of me.

                  I honestly don't know how these celebrations evolved in any detail, but I don't think the Kwanzaa invention is necessarily any different from a lot of others, it's just more recent.

                  I really don't care, to be honest. It just made me laugh that LD said Kwanzaa was made up, when clearly the details of a lot of holidays are also made up. If somebody wants to celebrate, great - what's the problem?

                  Apparently, not much of anybody does want to celebrate... 6 times more people celebrate Festivus than Kwanzaa... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=festivus,kwanzaa 2023&geo=US

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                  6 times more people celebrate Festivus than Kwanzaa...

                  By that logic considerably more people celebrate YouTube than either of them 🤓

                  I was only joking

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                      6 times more people celebrate Festivus than Kwanzaa...

                      By that logic considerably more people celebrate YouTube than either of them 🤓

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                      6 times more people celebrate Festivus than Kwanzaa...

                      By that logic considerably more people celebrate YouTube than either of them 🤓

                      Celebrate?

                      I don't think that word means what you think it means...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #23

                        Yeah, I played fast and loose with the google trends, but I bet it translates. I bet more people stopped at that Festivus display at the airport than any Kwanzaa display…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Yeah, I played fast and loose with the google trends, but I bet it translates. I bet more people stopped at that Festivus display at the airport than any Kwanzaa display…

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                          Yeah, I played fast and loose with the google trends, but I bet it translates. I bet more people stopped at that Festivus display at the airport than any Kwanzaa display…

                          No it doesn't matter because there's no difference between a holiday created from a sitcom and a holiday created by a felon and torturer of women. Because all things that once didn't exist but now exist hold equal value.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                            Yeah, I played fast and loose with the google trends, but I bet it translates. I bet more people stopped at that Festivus display at the airport than any Kwanzaa display…

                            No it doesn't matter because there's no difference between a holiday created from a sitcom and a holiday created by a felon and torturer of women. Because all things that once didn't exist but now exist hold equal value.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                            Yeah, I played fast and loose with the google trends, but I bet it translates. I bet more people stopped at that Festivus display at the airport than any Kwanzaa display…

                            No it doesn't matter because there's no difference between a holiday created from a sitcom and a holiday created by a felon and torturer of women. Because all things that once didn't exist but now exist hold equal value.

                            Hey, lighten up. You're like the grinch of Kwanzaa.

                            I was only joking

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                            • MikM Away
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                              I don't know a single black person who celebrates Kwanzaa. My suspicion is they view it with skepticism as it intends to cast them in a role they never asked for.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                Wait ... what about Juneteenth?

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Mik
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                                  Juneteenth has been a thing for much longer than Kwanzaa. It's been celebrated in Texas for many years.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    I'd never heard of Juneteenth until a couple of years ago.

                                    As far as I'm concerned, all American holidays are made up.

                                    Plus, I've heard that Jerry Seinfeld's a bad tipper.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      What about Juneteenth? While ai personally believe that Emancipation Day should be the celebration date in the same way we celebrate the 4th of July instead of September 28th, but I’ve got no qualms celebrating the practical end of slavery as opposed to the pronounced end. And it is definitely a historical event that should be celebrated.

                                      The Brad

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #31

                                        And MLK should absolutely be celebrated. I choose to do so by skiing.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          What about Juneteenth? While ai personally believe that Emancipation Day should be the celebration date in the same way we celebrate the 4th of July instead of September 28th, but I’ve got no qualms celebrating the practical end of slavery as opposed to the pronounced end. And it is definitely a historical event that should be celebrated.

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Happy Kwaanza!:

                                          What about Juneteenth? While ai personally believe that Emancipation Day should be the celebration date in the same way we celebrate the 4th of July instead of September 28th, but I’ve got no qualms celebrating the practical end of slavery as opposed to the pronounced end. And it is definitely a historical event that should be celebrated.

                                          I don't have a problem with people celebrating any made-up day they like. Celebrating is generally good. Obviously, there's always going to be some miserable so-and-so complaining about it, but why worry? We'll all be dead soon. If anybody lies on his death-bed complaining about how there are too many holidays, then he's a fucking idiot.

                                          I was only joking

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