Trump Disqualified in Colorado
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Voice of experience, eh?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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(too lazy to look it up)
Supposedly, the Secretary of State in Maine has unilateral power to remove a candidate from a ballot.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Renauda said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
Voice of experience, eh?
You would know, eh?
Just following your lead. I understand the nights are long and cold in Alberta.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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(too lazy to look it up)
Supposedly, the Secretary of State in Maine has unilateral power to remove a candidate from a ballot.
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And now...The appointed idiot stays her own decision...
https://www.maine.gov/sos/news/2023/BellowsDecisionChallengeTrumpPrimaryPetitionsDec2023.html
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And now...The appointed idiot stays her own decision...
https://www.maine.gov/sos/news/2023/BellowsDecisionChallengeTrumpPrimaryPetitionsDec2023.html
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@Renauda said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
Voice of experience, eh?
You would know, eh?
Just following your lead. I understand the nights are long and cold in Alberta.
@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
@Renauda said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
Voice of experience, eh?
You would know, eh?
Just following your lead. I understand the nights are long and cold in Alberta.
My lead? Ha! Trump’s been boning the US since Oral Roberts was a cowboy. Betcha y’all knowed that too.
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Nope. Haven't kept up with Trump's boning. Nice to know you have a hobby.
Everybody needs one.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Take the red pill: The election was rigged.
Take the blue pill: The erection was rigid.
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Nope. Haven't kept up with Trump's boning. Nice to know you have a hobby.
Everybody needs one.
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Stupid question, but why is a criminal conviction required? It just says the person shall not have engaged in insurrection, right? I haven't paid attention to the details here since I presume SCOTUS will overturn this in about two months.
@89th said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
Stupid question, but why is a criminal conviction required? It just says the person shall not have engaged in insurrection, right? I haven't paid attention to the details here since I presume SCOTUS will overturn this in about two months.
There doesn’t need to be a charge or a conviction.
Keep in mind this was written with the confederacy in mind. With very few exceptions, the US neither convicted nor charged the 1,000,000 or so former confederate soldiers yet this amendment applied to all of them and everyone knew it at the time.
Having said that, I’m not a fan of these moves and consider the law to be unworkably vague without enabling legislation from congress. Especially the second part - if ‘insurrection’ is vague, surely ‘providing aid or comfort’ to an enemy is worse.
I’m pretty sure the court will shut this down. I hope they do.
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@89th said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
Stupid question, but why is a criminal conviction required? It just says the person shall not have engaged in insurrection, right? I haven't paid attention to the details here since I presume SCOTUS will overturn this in about two months.
There doesn’t need to be a charge or a conviction.
Keep in mind this was written with the confederacy in mind. With very few exceptions, the US neither convicted nor charged the 1,000,000 or so former confederate soldiers yet this amendment applied to all of them and everyone knew it at the time.
Having said that, I’m not a fan of these moves and consider the law to be unworkably vague without enabling legislation from congress. Especially the second part - if ‘insurrection’ is vague, surely ‘providing aid or comfort’ to an enemy is worse.
I’m pretty sure the court will shut this down. I hope they do.
@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
There doesn’t need to be a charge or a conviction.
"You participated in an insurrection! You can't hold office!"
"No I didn't!"
"Did too!"
"Did not!"
Is that how it works? You can enact this because you think someone did something?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
There doesn’t need to be a charge or a conviction.
"You participated in an insurrection! You can't hold office!"
"No I didn't!"
"Did too!"
"Did not!"
Is that how it works? You can enact this because you think someone did something?
@George-K said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
There doesn’t need to be a charge or a conviction.
"You participated in an insurrection! You can't hold office!"
"No I didn't!"
"Did too!"
"Did not!"
Is that how it works? You can enact this because you think someone did something?
Yes.
This is the foundation of TDS.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
There doesn’t need to be a charge or a conviction.
"You participated in an insurrection! You can't hold office!"
"No I didn't!"
"Did too!"
"Did not!"
Is that how it works? You can enact this because you think someone did something?
@George-K said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
There doesn’t need to be a charge or a conviction.
"You participated in an insurrection! You can't hold office!"
"No I didn't!"
"Did too!"
"Did not!"
Is that how it works? You can enact this because you think someone did something?
Again I think it’s unworkable and shouldn’t be used. But it was never envisioned to require a conviction or a charge. It was US policy (generally) not to charge confederate veterans, yet everyone knew this was written to exclude them from office, including those veterans themselves.
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From a strictly scholarly point of discussion, wouldn’t the 14th have disqualified the first 10 Presidents or so?
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@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:
No it has to be an act of insurrection against the US.
Well, technically they have to have led a FAILED insurrection….
