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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #407

    These sorts of protests are the result of a moral panic roiling in the heads of the protesters, where they've convinced themselves that they are facing a test, perhaps the test of their very lifetimes, about whether they will or will not live up to their ideals. One tangible way of proving that they are willing to sacrifice for their ideals, is to become a pariah to random people, by ruining those people's day.

    Education is extremely important.

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      The “right to return right to remain” sign in the JFK video I presume was referring to the Jewish people who were in that area long before Palestine ever existed.

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      • kluursK kluurs

        @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        Regardless of the group protesting - if one is wishing to win hearts and minds - blocking airports over the Christmas holiday is unlikely to accomplish that objective. I've had similar feelings about any group that blocks traffic and tries to be a nuisance. It's not to say protest isn't appropriate - BUT leaders of such efforts should think through the impact and consequences of such actions. Miss an airplane to be with a person's family on Christmas - or participate in a wedding - and you stand a good chance of making an enemy for life. I guess it's human to do things that undermine one's goals - but just a tiny bit of thinking - and this kind of enmity can be avoided.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        #409

        @kluurs said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        Regardless of the group protesting - if one is wishing to win hearts and minds - blocking airports over the Christmas holiday is unlikely to accomplish that objective. I've had similar feelings about any group that blocks traffic and tries to be a nuisance. It's not to say protest isn't appropriate - BUT leaders of such efforts should think through the impact and consequences of such actions. Miss an airplane to be with a person's family on Christmas - or participate in a wedding - and you stand a good chance of making an enemy for life. I guess it's human to do things that undermine one's goals - but just a tiny bit of thinking - and this kind of enmity can be avoided.

        The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

        Please love yourself.

        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
        • HoraceH Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #410

          I'll never forget one post I read years ago on WTF from one of the resident middle aged progressive women. The moral panic was strong as she needed to do something - anything - to protest the election of President Trump. Up floated the possibility, in her otherwise rational mind, of going to a highway and laying down. "Moral panic" is such a perfect phrase, because the thought processes invoked are perfectly described as panicky.

          A lot of the panic comes from thought experiments that fester in the hearts and minds of the virtuous, about how they would have acted in Germany in 1937, or in the antebellum American south. They'd rather perform the first nonsensical act of destruction that springs to mind, than imagine themselves to be the sort of person who'd have stayed quiet and docile back then.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @kluurs said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

            @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

            Regardless of the group protesting - if one is wishing to win hearts and minds - blocking airports over the Christmas holiday is unlikely to accomplish that objective. I've had similar feelings about any group that blocks traffic and tries to be a nuisance. It's not to say protest isn't appropriate - BUT leaders of such efforts should think through the impact and consequences of such actions. Miss an airplane to be with a person's family on Christmas - or participate in a wedding - and you stand a good chance of making an enemy for life. I guess it's human to do things that undermine one's goals - but just a tiny bit of thinking - and this kind of enmity can be avoided.

            The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #411

            @Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

            The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

            What is?

            Pissing people off?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

              The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

              What is?

              Pissing people off?

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #412

              @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

              The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

              What is?

              Pissing people off?

              Proving their bravery through civil disobedience that has almost zero chance of any serious repercussions… Ooohhh , how brave.

              You know, it’s a shame that we ruin these young people’s show of courage by not truly exposing them to potential danger through their actions. If we allowed them to truly risk getting their assets handed to them, the. Their protests would have meaning as opposed to sounding like petulant tantrums of less significance than my 4 year old child’s meltdowns.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

                What is?

                Pissing people off?

                Proving their bravery through civil disobedience that has almost zero chance of any serious repercussions… Ooohhh , how brave.

                You know, it’s a shame that we ruin these young people’s show of courage by not truly exposing them to potential danger through their actions. If we allowed them to truly risk getting their assets handed to them, the. Their protests would have meaning as opposed to sounding like petulant tantrums of less significance than my 4 year old child’s meltdowns.

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
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                #413

                @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

                What is?

                Pissing people off?

                Proving their bravery through civil disobedience that has almost zero chance of any serious repercussions… Ooohhh , how brave.

                You know, it’s a shame that we ruin these young people’s show of courage by not truly exposing them to potential danger through their actions. If we allowed them to truly risk getting their assets handed to them, the. Their protests would have meaning as opposed to sounding like petulant tantrums of less significance than my 4 year old child’s meltdowns.

                I wholly agree with both of you and, for the most part, Horace. The yobs that occupied downtown Ottawa and the border crossings two years ago over their imagined constitutional and human rights, were similarly motivated and equally politically illiterate as this current lot, and set out to create the same mayhem. Why? Because they could.

                A whiff of grapeshot is what they all need.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                  @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                  The goal isn't winning hearts and minds.

                  What is?

                  Pissing people off?

                  Proving their bravery through civil disobedience that has almost zero chance of any serious repercussions… Ooohhh , how brave.

                  You know, it’s a shame that we ruin these young people’s show of courage by not truly exposing them to potential danger through their actions. If we allowed them to truly risk getting their assets handed to them, the. Their protests would have meaning as opposed to sounding like petulant tantrums of less significance than my 4 year old child’s meltdowns.

                  I wholly agree with both of you and, for the most part, Horace. The yobs that occupied downtown Ottawa and the border crossings two years ago over their imagined constitutional and human rights, were similarly motivated and equally politically illiterate as this current lot, and set out to create the same mayhem. Why? Because they could.

                  A whiff of grapeshot is what they all need.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #414

                  @Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                  The Yobs that occupied downtown Ottawa and the border crossing crossings two years ago over their imagined constitutional and human rights, were similarly motivated and equally politically illiterate as this current lot

                  I thought the protesters in Canada were all right-minded lovers of freedom? I'm pretty sure that's how they were described by a number of people, some of whom may even have even posted here, and it was the Canadian government that was clearly in the wrong.

                  I was only joking

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #415

                    I've never heard the word "yobs" other than as spoken by @renauda. I have no idea what the actual definition is, but it seems to fit these asshats perfectly.

                    "Asshat" = "Yob?"

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      I've never heard the word "yobs" other than as spoken by @renauda. I have no idea what the actual definition is, but it seems to fit these asshats perfectly.

                      "Asshat" = "Yob?"

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #416

                      @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                      I've never heard the word "yobs" other than as spoken by @renauda. I have no idea what the actual definition is, but it seems to fit these asshats perfectly.

                      "Asshat" = "Yob?"

                      A specific kind.

                      Do a google image search for "yobbo."

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • George KG George K

                        I've never heard the word "yobs" other than as spoken by @renauda. I have no idea what the actual definition is, but it seems to fit these asshats perfectly.

                        "Asshat" = "Yob?"

                        RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #417

                        @George-K

                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yob_(slang)

                        Elbows up!

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #418

                          Ah, некультурный, iow.

                          Not to be confused with хулиган.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Ah, некультурный, iow.

                            Not to be confused with хулиган.

                            RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #419

                            @George-K

                            Можно так и сказать.

                            Elbows up!

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                              https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/nyregion/protests-nyc-la-jfk-lax-airport.html

                              Dozens of demonstrators were arrested after blocking roadways outside Kennedy and Los Angeles International Airports on a busy holiday travel day.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/nyregion/protests-nyc-la-jfk-lax-airport.html

                                Dozens of demonstrators were arrested after blocking roadways outside Kennedy and Los Angeles International Airports on a busy holiday travel day.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by George K
                                #421

                                @Axtremus said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/nyregion/protests-nyc-la-jfk-lax-airport.html

                                Dozens of demonstrators were arrested after blocking roadways outside Kennedy and Los Angeles International Airports on a busy holiday travel day.

                                "Dozens..."

                                How many "dozens?" One? Twelve?

                                Ah, about two...

                                At least they weren't parading...

                                ETA: Or gluing themselves to the pavement.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
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                                  Lock them up.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #423

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #424

                                      I'm so old I remember when Sarah Palin got pilloried for allegedly doing a "Nazi Salute."

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #425

                                        Lock them up - for a long time.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Joe Biden's guests

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