Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?

[Jolly]

How many cases were adjudicated before 1/20?

[LuFins Dad]

Irrelevant.

[Jolly]

I think it quite relevant.

The FBI was still investigating the death of the Capitol Police officer. Things were very much in a state of flux. Just think how agitated you'd be if Trump had pardoned somebody before their guilt or innocence was established.

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

I think it quite relevant.

The FBI was still investigating the death of the Capitol Police officer. Things were very much in a state of flux. Just think how agitated you'd be if Trump had pardoned somebody before their guilt or innocence was established.

Please note the nonviolent offender part of the statement.

[Copper]

@LuFins-Dad said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

He could easily have done so

Neither he nor his guys would believe the witch hunt that has happened since then.

It was just a few doofusses taking selfies. No big deal.

It should have been forgotten within a few days.

But if the lies get told over and over, they grow and take on new life.

We have seen some victims of that media blitz right here.

[Mik]

I don’t think anyone had really been charged yet. I’d also think the recipient would have to be named.

[George K]

I believe there's only been one preemptive presidential pardon - Nixon.

[Copper]

Was this preemptive?

Both during and after the American Civil War, pardons for ex-Confederates were given by US Presidents Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardons_for_ex-Confederates

[Renauda]

Was this preemptive? …..

No, it was magnanimity on the part of the victors. Very different.

[Copper]

@Renauda said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

Was this preemptive? …..

No, it was magnanimity on the part of the victors. Very different.

According to the Whitehouse Historical Association it was.

Abraham Lincoln issued preemptive pardons during the Civil War and so did Jimmy Carter, who pardoned Vietnam draft evaders who had not been charged for their actions.

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/the-history-of-the-pardon-power#:~:text=They include%3A pardon%2C amnesty%2C,imposed by a federal court.

And then there was the case of the distillers in the backwoods of Kentucky and Pennsylvania. The first preemptive pardon.

Washington gathered a militia, had a uniform made and headed to Pittsburgh to confront the distillers himself — making him the only president to take up arms against his own people, Coe wrote.

He thought better of it and turned around before the confrontation, but troops still arrested more than 150 people on charges of treason. Two were convicted, but Washington — in a show of national unity and perhaps some embarrassment — pardoned the entire group.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/12/11/preemptive-pardons-trump-george-washington-ford/

[Renauda]

Don’t care what the White House Hustorical Historical Assoc calls it and even less what the Washington Post writes about it.

I don’t believe you do either..

[Jolly]

@Renauda said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

Hustoical

Canadian spelling?

[Renauda]

No, a typo/spelling error. You have a problem with it? Didn’t think so either.

[Copper]

@Renauda said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

Don’t care what the White House Hustorical Historical Assoc calls it and even less what the Washington Post writes about it.

I don’t believe you do either..

I’m sorry, but you obviously know nothing about this. This is important historical research we do here, please be more careful with the facts.

[LuFins Dad]

It was Carter’s blanket pardon of the draft evaders that I was thinking of as the precedent. These guys weren’t identified, but identification was possible and ongoing. Similar to January 6th. They hadn’t been adjudicated yet… Trump could have easily issued some general pardons on very specific guidelines.

[Renauda]

@Copper said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

@Renauda said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

Don’t care what the White House Hustorical Historical Assoc calls it and even less what the Washington Post writes about it.

I don’t believe you do either..

I’m sorry, but you obviously know nothing about this. This is important historical research we do here, please be more careful with the facts.

Like I already told you, I don’t believe you do either. That shouldn’t be too difficult for you to comprehend.

[Doctor Phibes]

@LuFins-Dad said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

It was Carter’s blanket pardon of the draft evaders that I was thinking of as the precedent. These guys weren’t identified, but identification was possible and ongoing. Similar to January 6th. They hadn’t been adjudicated yet… Trump could have easily issued some general pardons on very specific guidelines.

A cynic might suggest that it is in Trump's interest for them to become martyrs.

[jon-nyc]

You spelled ’realist’ wrong.

[Copper]

@Renauda said in Why didn’t Trump pardon the nonviolent January 6th protesters?:

Like I already told you, I don’t believe you do either. That shouldn’t be too difficult for you to comprehend.

The difference is that I am right and you are wrong.

As always.

Just accept it and move on, you are embarrassing yourself.

[Renauda]

@Copper

I just forget who posted this years ago in response to you. I thought it was an accurate statement then and still do to this day:

Cu > Pb

Happy Christmas.