Whole Milk is Bad?

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Whole Milk is Bad?:

Reduced fat milk is better for almost everyone.

Really?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/well/eat/low-fat-dairy-products.html

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/whole-vs-skim-milk#TOC_TITLE_HDR_3

Remember when they told us that eggs cause high cholesterol?

[Horace]

If refined carbs are your target of choice, in that same bucket of dietary ideas is the notion that whole milk is better than reduced fat.

[Wim]

@Mik I've been drinking whole milk all my life, about 3/4 litre a day. My arteries are just fine, my teeth are in good shape, and my vitamine D-level is still all right.
I don't trust 'good health guru's'. They tend to change their minds every ten years.

[Mik]

I grew up on it, Wim. As much as we wanted. It’s like a treat to me now when I have some. Love it.

[Renauda]

Nothing the matter with whole milk or, as we used to call it here, homo milk. It’s now called 3%.

[xenon]

The state of research on saturated fat is pretty confusing.

I just try to follow the principle of eating low-processed or whole foods. I don’t buy the low fat version of any dairy (milk, cheese, yogurt)

[Wim]

@Renauda "Homomilk" ?

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in Whole Milk is Bad?:

If refined carbs are your target of choice, in that same bucket of dietary ideas is the notion that whole milk is better than reduced fat.

I hope your dietary ideas are serving you well.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Whole Milk is Bad?:

@Horace said in Whole Milk is Bad?:

If refined carbs are your target of choice, in that same bucket of dietary ideas is the notion that whole milk is better than reduced fat.

I hope your dietary ideas are serving you well.

A fat joke from the adult in the room? Shocking. I'll remember next time you roll over and beg not to be insulted as you lose yet another engagement here.

[jon-nyc]

Read into it what you want. If you believe refined carbs are not a problem in a country with obesity rates at 40% and metabolic syndrome everywhere you look then maybe you should reevaluate your views rather than criticize mine.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Whole Milk is Bad?:

Read into it what you want. If you believe refined carbs are not a problem in a country with obesity rates at 40% and metabolic syndrome everywhere you look then maybe you should reevaluate rather than criticize.

Of course. "you" as in the American "you". Because I was speaking for America and its general ideas about nutrition, obviously. So when you say "you", clearly you meant "America and its general ideas about nutrition". My mistake, I'm really sorry for straw manning you, jon. You are so smart and honest. It must be difficult to engage here with people who aren't always like that.

But I did not say that refined carbs are not a problem for obesity. I have known they are a problem for many decades now, long before it became common, if still idiotically disputed, knowledge.

[Renauda]

@Wim said in Whole Milk is Bad?:

@Renauda "Homomilk" ?

Yes, it was short for “3% homogenised milk”

Usually just referred to as a bottle or quart/litre of homo.

[jon-nyc]

Horace - I misread your first post and thought you had lumped together aversion to refined carbs with a preference for low fat milk and criticized them as a pair, hence my reaction. My apologies.

[Doctor Phibes]

Hang on a second, are you saying that chocolate is freaking bad for you? How about beer?

God sucks.

[jon-nyc]

Chocolate isn’t bad for you. It’s all the added sugar