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  • 89th8 Offline
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    People getting really worked up over words. Sticks and stones are real... but not at these silly college campuses right now.

    ANYWAY....... curious if @Ivorythumper 's tree neighbor (lawyer at Penn?) is involved? 🙂

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    • 89th8 89th

      People getting really worked up over words. Sticks and stones are real... but not at these silly college campuses right now.

      ANYWAY....... curious if @Ivorythumper 's tree neighbor (lawyer at Penn?) is involved? 🙂

      George KG Offline
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      @89th said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

      People getting really worked up over words.

      That's sort of the point. When "misgendering" someone gets you hauled before a panel at the university, there's a problem.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #221

          Whites and Jews the only groups? That’s nonsense. I don’t a Mormon affinity celebration, or a Buddhist affinity celebration, or….

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            No Lithuanians either.

            Though, one could make the case that Buddhists, Mormons and Lithuanians are not a "race."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #223

              I went to a college graduation a few months ago where the black students got a special sash that said "Black Excellence". Nobody else got sashes. I wondered whether they would get pats on the head as they received their diplomas, but sadly, none were offered. Racist.

              I'm nonplussed that any of this is surprising. These are dead center mainstream popular culture antics at colleges.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • George KG George K

                No Lithuanians either.

                Though, one could make the case that Buddhists, Mormons and Lithuanians are not a "race."

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                @George-K said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                No Lithuanians either.

                Though, one could make the case that Buddhists, Mormons and Lithuanians are not a "race."

                Neither are LGBTQwxyz

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @George-K said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  No Lithuanians either.

                  Though, one could make the case that Buddhists, Mormons and Lithuanians are not a "race."

                  Neither are LGBTQwxyz

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  @George-K said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  No Lithuanians either.

                  Though, one could make the case that Buddhists, Mormons and Lithuanians are not a "race."

                  Neither are LGBTQwxyz

                  Simple math. The Human Race has 2 genders. Many of these individuals don’t fit within those 2 genders. Therefore they must be some other type of race…

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #226

                    Lol

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @George-K said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      No Lithuanians either.

                      Though, one could make the case that Buddhists, Mormons and Lithuanians are not a "race."

                      Neither are LGBTQwxyz

                      George KG Offline
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                      @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      Neither are LGBTQwxyz

                      Yeah to that one too.

                      But, in today's schools they are a "protected group."

                      In a civil rights kind of way.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        Technically, since they can’t naturally breed with each other, I’m not sure they are even the same species as each other, let alone a race within that species…

                        The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Technically, since they can’t naturally breed with each other, I’m not sure they are even the same species as each other, let alone a race within that species…

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                            Technically, since they can’t naturally breed with each other, I’m not sure they are even the same species as each other, let alone a race within that species…

                            Actually the Ls can breed with the Gs just fine.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              https://nypost.com/2023/12/14/news/harvard-forces-jewish-student-group-to-hide-menorah-at-night-for-fear-of-vandalism-rabbi-says/

                              Harvard forces a Jewish student group to hide its menorah each night after its lighting over fears of vandalism that “won’t look good” for the Ivy League school, the rabbi of Harvard Chabad said.

                              “On our campus in the shadow of Widener Library, we in the Jewish community are instructed, ‘We’ll let you have the menorah, you made your point, OK. Pack it up, don’t leave it out overnight because there will be criminal activity we fear and it won’t look good’,” Rabbi Hirschy Zarchi said at a Hanukkah lighting Wednesday night.

                              Zarchi, the founder and president of Harvard Chabad, said the university has asked the group to take in the menorah each night since the first Hanukkah lighting on campus.

                              But amid a rise in antisemitism across the world and on college campuses due to the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict, the rabbi said the message is even more poignant.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                https://nypost.com/2023/12/14/news/harvard-forces-jewish-student-group-to-hide-menorah-at-night-for-fear-of-vandalism-rabbi-says/

                                Harvard forces a Jewish student group to hide its menorah each night after its lighting over fears of vandalism that “won’t look good” for the Ivy League school, the rabbi of Harvard Chabad said.

                                “On our campus in the shadow of Widener Library, we in the Jewish community are instructed, ‘We’ll let you have the menorah, you made your point, OK. Pack it up, don’t leave it out overnight because there will be criminal activity we fear and it won’t look good’,” Rabbi Hirschy Zarchi said at a Hanukkah lighting Wednesday night.

                                Zarchi, the founder and president of Harvard Chabad, said the university has asked the group to take in the menorah each night since the first Hanukkah lighting on campus.

                                But amid a rise in antisemitism across the world and on college campuses due to the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict, the rabbi said the message is even more poignant.

                                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                Aqua Letifer
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                                @George-K said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                                https://nypost.com/2023/12/14/news/harvard-forces-jewish-student-group-to-hide-menorah-at-night-for-fear-of-vandalism-rabbi-says/

                                Harvard forces a Jewish student group to hide its menorah each night after its lighting over fears of vandalism that “won’t look good” for the Ivy League school, the rabbi of Harvard Chabad said.

                                “On our campus in the shadow of Widener Library, we in the Jewish community are instructed, ‘We’ll let you have the menorah, you made your point, OK. Pack it up, don’t leave it out overnight because there will be criminal activity we fear and it won’t look good’,” Rabbi Hirschy Zarchi said at a Hanukkah lighting Wednesday night.

                                Zarchi, the founder and president of Harvard Chabad, said the university has asked the group to take in the menorah each night since the first Hanukkah lighting on campus.

                                But amid a rise in antisemitism across the world and on college campuses due to the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict, the rabbi said the message is even more poignant.

                                It's nice they're kickin' it old-school with a little pre-emptive victim-blaming.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/if-harvard-doesnt-want-congress-to-ask-it-questions-it-can-stop-taking-money-from-congress/


                                  Anyhow, I’m picking on this particular offering because it contained this passage, which jumped out and smacked me in the forehead:

                                  Civil rights lawyer Sherrilyn Ifill called the investigation “shocking and dangerous” on Thursday and questioned why members of Congress are spending their time probing Harvard rather than passing a border bill or aid to Ukraine. “When you challenge the independence of private institutions, you are challenging a core element of our democracy. We should be on alert,” Ifill told CNN’s Brianna Keilar on “The Source.”

                                  "If Harvard wants to do its own investigation, it is free to do so. But for members of Congress to decide that they want to meddle into the private affairs of a private institution in order to score political points and to target a Black president is incredibly dangerous,” added Ifill, the former president and director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund.

                                  This is absurd on every level. Why are members of Congress “probing Harvard”? Because Harvard receives hundreds of millions of dollars from Congress, that’s why. Per Harvard’s own financial reports, the college was given $625 million by the federal government in 2021 — a number that “accounted for approximately 67 percent of total sponsored revenue.” Between 2018 and 2022, records show, Harvard was handed more than three billion federal dollars. If Harvard wishes to be completely “independent” of Congress — as, say, Hillsdale is — then it must also become completely independent of Congress’s wallet. It cannot pick and choose. With subsidy comes oversight. That isn’t a threat to “our democracy”; that is our democracy.

                                  Are we really to believe that Ifill, who used to work for the NAACP, wishes to abolish the current rules that come along with the federal funding of universities? As PEN America records, “private institutions that receive federal funding must also adhere to federal anti-discrimination laws, such as those applicable under Title IX.” Is that “meddling”? Or does that term only apply when Congress asks questions that Ifill doesn’t like? Where’s her limiting principle? It is interesting that Ifill mentions “aid to Ukraine” in her list of things that Congress should be doing instead. Does she think that Congress should write a blank check in that realm, too? Do questions asked of those beneficiaries represent a challenge to the “core element of our democracy,” or, perhaps to Ukraine’s sovereignty? Or do these standards apply to Harvard alone?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Here, here!

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Quote of the day:

                                      "I'm not surprised that Hamas is hiding in a school. I'm just surprised that school is Harvard."

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Quote of the day:

                                        "I'm not surprised that Hamas is hiding in a school. I'm just surprised that school is Harvard."

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                                        Quote of the day:

                                        "I'm not surprised that Hamas is hiding in a school. I'm just surprised that school is Harvard."

                                        LOL.

                                        The Brad

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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