The Curious Case of Claudine Gay

[Horace]

In theory, dissertations are original and potentially "important" research. In practice, they get read by the approval committee, maybe, and then by nobody else ever.

Maybe the AIs will train on them.

[bachophile]

i dont know much about humanities doctoral dissertations, but most medical journals that i have published in run the text through programs looking for matching texts from previous medical publications, and if it catches too many similarities of phrase, you will get called out on it, even if they are referenced. there is a certain amount of leeway, but if you have too much material lifted without quotes, they wont review it until you change the wording sufficiently.
when i write papers, i usually always just write freehand from my head, and then look for references to support what i wrote, and so invariably i have nevever been called out on this (although i have seen colleagues who copy pasted phrases here and there be asked to change wording)
but obviously, the real sin of plaigarism is lifting data. thats obviously unforgivable. but the humanities doesnt really have data, does it?

[Klaus]

@bachophile said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

obviously, the real sin of plaigarism is lifting data. thats obviously unforgivable. but the humanities doesnt really have data, does it?

Harsh!

[Horace]

There are many different truth seeking mechanisms. Data and logic and the scientific method are typical white male oppressor mechanisms. The mystical truths of women of color are a step beyond, and I don't feel personally able to understand them or pronounce any judgment of them.

[Renauda]

@Horace

The mystical truths of women of color are a step beyond, and I don't feel personally able to understand them or pronounce any judgment of them.

No doubt. Witchcraft and Voodoo are esoteric black arts.

[Copper]

If you are writing code you can plagiarize as much as you want, nobody cares.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Copper said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

If you are writing code you can plagiarize as much as you want, nobody cares.

Sure.

[George K]

Examples in the thread. When 40% of your publications have questionable attributions...

[Aqua Letifer]

I'm sorry, that's not a minor problem that's absolute fucking plagiarism.

[Jolly]

Hey, hey!
Ditch the Gay!

[George K]

I don't know anything about this organization, but...

[Horace]

National Association of Scholars pops up on my youtube feed occasionally. They are heterodox thinkers who don't need no stinking overton windows.

[Jolly]

The curious case just got curiouser...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/harvard-president-claudine-gay-staying-rcna129178

[George K]

Had she been a white Jewish cis-male, she'd have been gone a week ago.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

Had she been a white Jewish cis-male, she'd have been gone a week ago.

Had she been a straight white guy she never would have gotten the job.

[Horace]

A cis white male at her level would have difficulty being a professional academic.

[George K]

The Crimson

“As members of the Harvard Corporation, we today reaffirm our support for President Gay’s continued leadership of Harvard University,” the board wrote in a University-wide statement on Tuesday. “In this tumultuous and difficult time, we unanimously stand in support of President Gay.”

Oh...

In the statement, the Corporation revealed that it learned about the plagiarism allegations against Gay in late October. The board’s concerns also call into question the presidential search committee’s vetting process for the search that ended in Gay’s selection less than one year ago.

The concerns raised by Harvard’s highest governing body about the plagiarism allegations against Gay mark a head-spinning twist in the controversy surrounding Gay’s tumultuous first semester as president.

While some speculated the Corporation might oust Gay over her response to the Israel-Hamas war, the statement on Tuesday suggests the academic dishonesty allegations might prove more perilous to the future of Gay’s presidency.

They knew about it two months ago.

[Jolly]

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Copper]

@Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

A cis white male at her level would have difficulty being a professional academic.

Imagine the epic joy on the board when they found a black woman named Gay!

They will never let her go.

[George K]

I'll wait until I see details...