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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by
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    I think it's more the GOP is the party of conservative values. Heck it was the Republicans who freed the slaves and the democrats who were all about segregation until about 50 years ago. Honestly, I'd like the Whig party to come back.

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    • 89th8 89th

      I think it's more the GOP is the party of conservative values. Heck it was the Republicans who freed the slaves and the democrats who were all about segregation until about 50 years ago. Honestly, I'd like the Whig party to come back.

      CopperC Offline
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      #10

      @89th said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

      democrats who were all about segregation until about 50 years ago

      And the democrats are once again all about segregation.

      racists

      Let's start tearing down some democrat statues.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        The GOP becomes the party of women's rights.

        This argument is so fucked up.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
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        #11

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

        The GOP becomes the party of women's rights.

        This argument is so fucked up.

        Women's rights, desegregation, safe schools, a more open liberal arts education that's free from groupthink and thoughtcrimes, etc.

        What's fucked up goes far beyond this particular argument.

        Please love yourself.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          #12

          It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

          If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

            If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

            It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

            If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

            I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

            Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
            Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

            It's a very bad time new ideas.

            Please love yourself.

            LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

              It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

              If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

              I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

              Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
              Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

              It's a very bad time new ideas.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

              @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

              It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

              If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

              I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

              Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
              Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

              It's a very bad time new ideas.

              Do you really think that Conservatives want the country to go back to the 50s? Race? Women’s Lib? Acceptance of homosexuals?

              I’m a conservative, and the only thing that I would like to see revived from the 50’s is Radio Dramas. Maybe some of the music, too. A lot of great music gets short shrift to the 60’s.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                #15

                I will absolutely agree with you regarding the arts in general, though.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                  @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                  It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

                  If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

                  I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

                  Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
                  Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

                  It's a very bad time new ideas.

                  Do you really think that Conservatives want the country to go back to the 50s? Race? Women’s Lib? Acceptance of homosexuals?

                  I’m a conservative, and the only thing that I would like to see revived from the 50’s is Radio Dramas. Maybe some of the music, too. A lot of great music gets short shrift to the 60’s.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #16

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                  @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                  It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

                  If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

                  I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

                  Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
                  Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

                  It's a very bad time new ideas.

                  Do you really think that Conservatives want the country to go back to the 50s? Race? Women’s Lib? Acceptance of homosexuals?

                  Oh FFS. Yes I have blue hair and think that, give me a break. You know what I meant. If you don't, feel free to replace "50s" with whatever 1-word shorthand you'd prefer for "values, laws, and economic opportunities that were prevalent prior to the introduction of woke shenanigans."

                  I’m a conservative, and the only thing that I would like to see revived from the 50’s is Radio Dramas. Maybe some of the music, too. A lot of great music gets short shrift to the 60’s.

                  Church attendance was up higher back then. And aren't you the guy always posting things about Loudoun County public schools? You'd rather have today's public school system, really?

                  Please love yourself.

                  LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                    @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                    It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

                    If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

                    I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

                    Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
                    Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

                    It's a very bad time new ideas.

                    Do you really think that Conservatives want the country to go back to the 50s? Race? Women’s Lib? Acceptance of homosexuals?

                    Oh FFS. Yes I have blue hair and think that, give me a break. You know what I meant. If you don't, feel free to replace "50s" with whatever 1-word shorthand you'd prefer for "values, laws, and economic opportunities that were prevalent prior to the introduction of woke shenanigans."

                    I’m a conservative, and the only thing that I would like to see revived from the 50’s is Radio Dramas. Maybe some of the music, too. A lot of great music gets short shrift to the 60’s.

                    Church attendance was up higher back then. And aren't you the guy always posting things about Loudoun County public schools? You'd rather have today's public school system, really?

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                    @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                    It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

                    If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

                    I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

                    Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
                    Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

                    It's a very bad time new ideas.

                    Do you really think that Conservatives want the country to go back to the 50s? Race? Women’s Lib? Acceptance of homosexuals?

                    Oh FFS. Yes I have blue hair and think that, give me a break. You know what I meant. If you don't, feel free to replace "50s" with whatever 1-word shorthand you'd prefer for "values, laws, and economic opportunities that were prevalent prior to the introduction of woke shenanigans."

                    I’m a conservative, and the only thing that I would like to see revived from the 50’s is Radio Dramas. Maybe some of the music, too. A lot of great music gets short shrift to the 60’s.

                    Church attendance was up higher back then. And aren't you the guy always posting things about Loudoun County public schools? You'd rather have today's public school system, really?

                    No, but I don’t want the Public Schools of the 50’s either…

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                      @Horace said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                      It helps to think in terms of conservatism in the abstract, as a defense of the dominant culture. So, cultural conservatives these days are progressives, as that is the entrenched dominant institutional culture. They are conservative in the sense that they are protective of mainstream ideas and exclusionary against other ideas, and they wield the institutional power to do something about it. The biggest clue is that "free speech", and its advocacy has become a sneer-worthy pre-marginalized tribal identification.

                      If you want to know what the conservative politics in any western society is, just poll the middle aged women, and find out what they think how they feel.

                      I can get down with the idea that today's "conservatives" are actually the liberals who don't know they are anything but liberal, but meanwhile, the ones calling themselves conservatives are playing the same game.

                      Liberals (conservatives really): orthodox as fuck.
                      Conservatives (basically conserving the America of the 50s): orthodox as fuck.

                      It's a very bad time new ideas.

                      Do you really think that Conservatives want the country to go back to the 50s? Race? Women’s Lib? Acceptance of homosexuals?

                      Oh FFS. Yes I have blue hair and think that, give me a break. You know what I meant. If you don't, feel free to replace "50s" with whatever 1-word shorthand you'd prefer for "values, laws, and economic opportunities that were prevalent prior to the introduction of woke shenanigans."

                      I’m a conservative, and the only thing that I would like to see revived from the 50’s is Radio Dramas. Maybe some of the music, too. A lot of great music gets short shrift to the 60’s.

                      Church attendance was up higher back then. And aren't you the guy always posting things about Loudoun County public schools? You'd rather have today's public school system, really?

                      No, but I don’t want the Public Schools of the 50’s either…

                      CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                      No, but I don’t want the Public Schools of the 50’s either…

                      I went to public school during the 50s. My recollection is that it was ok.

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        #19

                        I didn't live in the 50s but I think an overall return to the pre-60s era where family, faith, and community were prioritized wouldn't be so bad for the country. Since then it seems life has sped up and values have been watered down.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          Gee, our old LaSalle ran great.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            I think it's more the GOP is the party of conservative values. Heck it was the Republicans who freed the slaves and the democrats who were all about segregation until about 50 years ago. Honestly, I'd like the Whig party to come back.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @89th said in Riley Gaines testifies - and offends:

                            Honestly, I'd like the Whig party to come back.

                            It's not a whig, it's a fucking comb-over, OK?

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                            I was only joking

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