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…and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

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    61 year old doctor, born in DC, spent almost his whole life here, including medical school and 30 years practicing in Virginia, finds himself suddenly stateless.

    As he tells it, when he sent in an application for a new passport in February, he had no reason to expect he’d face any difficulties. He had renewed his passport several times previously without problems. This time, it was set to expire in June, and he wanted to make sure he had a valid one in hand before his family took a trip in July.
    But he did not receive a new passport. Instead, at the age of 61, he lost what he had held since he was an infant: U.S. citizenship.
    A letter from a State Department official informed him that he should not have been granted citizenship at the time of his birth because his father was a diplomat with the Embassy of Iran. The letter directed Sobhani to a website where he could apply for lawful permanent residence.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      Full piece here.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/25/virginia-doctor-passport-citizenship-nightmare/

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        His dad wasn’t a career diplomat or anything, he had a temporary job with the embassy for two months, but the guy was born during those two months.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          Some questions he asks in the piece -

          • can he still practice medicine?

          • if his social security number changes, will he get credit for the 30 years he’s been paying into the system?

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            This is why the spirit of the law is sometimes as important as the letter.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              I would like to think the people in charge of permanent resident applications do the obvious right thing here. But my faith in bureaucracies is pretty low.

              Hopefully the article will bring it to the attention of the right people.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                To fix the problem, it's just a phone call from the right person to the right person.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  61 year old doctor, born in DC, spent almost his whole life here, including medical school and 30 years practicing in Virginia, finds himself suddenly stateless.

                  As he tells it, when he sent in an application for a new passport in February, he had no reason to expect he’d face any difficulties. He had renewed his passport several times previously without problems. This time, it was set to expire in June, and he wanted to make sure he had a valid one in hand before his family took a trip in July.
                  But he did not receive a new passport. Instead, at the age of 61, he lost what he had held since he was an infant: U.S. citizenship.
                  A letter from a State Department official informed him that he should not have been granted citizenship at the time of his birth because his father was a diplomat with the Embassy of Iran. The letter directed Sobhani to a website where he could apply for lawful permanent residence.

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                  @jon-nyc said in …and subject to the jurisdiction thereof:

                  61 year old doctor, born in DC, spent almost his whole life here ... finds himself suddenly stateless.

                  I mean, DC isn't a state, so this isn't a surprise.

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