Now And Then
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It doesn’t sound like the Beatles to me
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https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/24985/reuniting-the-beatles/2?_=1699184952576
My comment in that thread was, "Yawn."
It's a totally mundane song with none of the genius, unexpected stuff that the Beatles were known for. It sounds like something that could have been written by AI, though AI might have produced a marginally better version.
The two remaining Beatles are long, long past their sell-by date.
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This was probably one of those songs that never would have been on an album during their career. The only reason it is getting big news is just because of the timing and situation.
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This was probably one of those songs that never would have been on an album during their career. The only reason it is getting big news is just because of the timing and situation.
@taiwan_girl said in Now And Then:
This was probably one of those songs that never would have been on an album during their career. The only reason it is getting big news is just because of the timing and situation.
Excellent point. The thirst for nostalgia is never quenched.
Out of 214 Beatles' songs, this ranks #211. I'd rate it lower.
https://www.vulture.com/article/best-beatles-songs-ranked.html
The remaining Beatles and their heirs are of course allowed to market the group’s material as they wish, but the periodic “last Beatles song” campaigns (“Free As a Bird” in 1995, “Real Love” the year after, and now “Now and Then”) are not Beatles songs. They are muddy Lennon demo fragments from the 1970s that have been gussied up so they can be purveyed to help sell new Beatles paraphernalia. The sober assurances from all involved, from McCartney to Sean Ono Lennon, that John would have wanted this ring a bit hollow. And all the hype — filled with lots of early footage of the Beatles working together to make it seem like this is an actual Beatles project — comes across as strained.
The line on “Now and Then” is that it was considered back in the 1990s to help sell the Anthology releases, but the quality of the tape wouldn’t allow it. Now, McCartney is throwing around words like “artificial intelligence” and “machine learning” to justify this particular excavation. The result are some trivial lyrics set against a haunting lilt of a melody in the chorus, with a lot of cobbling together of various Beatles-y instrumentation à la the Love project on top. Lennon’s voice is spectral and vulnerable. (But note how he cleverly repurposes the idiom “now and then.”) It would have been more respectful all the way around had this been simply billed as a Lennon solo project that McCartney & Co. brought back to life as a tribute to him. Docked 100 notches for going back to the well once too often.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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I think we should give McCartney the benefit of the doubt. He probably needs the dosh.
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I think we should give McCartney the benefit of the doubt. He probably needs the dosh.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Now And Then:
He probably needs the dosh.
I assume this is a "British-ism" for "cash."
But, he doesn't. Especially at his age.
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@taiwan_girl said in Now And Then:
This was probably one of those songs that never would have been on an album during their career. The only reason it is getting big news is just because of the timing and situation.
Excellent point. The thirst for nostalgia is never quenched.
Out of 214 Beatles' songs, this ranks #211. I'd rate it lower.
https://www.vulture.com/article/best-beatles-songs-ranked.html
The remaining Beatles and their heirs are of course allowed to market the group’s material as they wish, but the periodic “last Beatles song” campaigns (“Free As a Bird” in 1995, “Real Love” the year after, and now “Now and Then”) are not Beatles songs. They are muddy Lennon demo fragments from the 1970s that have been gussied up so they can be purveyed to help sell new Beatles paraphernalia. The sober assurances from all involved, from McCartney to Sean Ono Lennon, that John would have wanted this ring a bit hollow. And all the hype — filled with lots of early footage of the Beatles working together to make it seem like this is an actual Beatles project — comes across as strained.
The line on “Now and Then” is that it was considered back in the 1990s to help sell the Anthology releases, but the quality of the tape wouldn’t allow it. Now, McCartney is throwing around words like “artificial intelligence” and “machine learning” to justify this particular excavation. The result are some trivial lyrics set against a haunting lilt of a melody in the chorus, with a lot of cobbling together of various Beatles-y instrumentation à la the Love project on top. Lennon’s voice is spectral and vulnerable. (But note how he cleverly repurposes the idiom “now and then.”) It would have been more respectful all the way around had this been simply billed as a Lennon solo project that McCartney & Co. brought back to life as a tribute to him. Docked 100 notches for going back to the well once too often.
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@taiwan_girl said in Now And Then:
@George-K said in Now And Then:
Out of 214 Beatles' songs, this ranks #211. I'd rate it lower.
LOL
It rates this song higher than "Good Day Sunshine," "Dig It," and "Little Child."
I might put it higher than "Dig It," but it's a tough call.
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Sorry. I still don’t get The Beetle’s fandom.
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Sorry. I still don’t get The Beetle’s fandom.
@LuFins-Dad said in Now And Then:
Sorry. I still don’t get The Beetle’s fandom.
It was a great car for it's time. Affordable, reliable and designed by Adolf Hitler with some assistance from Ferdinand Porsche. What's not to like?
Anyway, getting back to the song, I didn't think it was that great.
