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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
    Aqua LetiferA Offline
    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
    #1

    I have a Montblanc pen from my father-in-law. It works very well, but it's not a typical 145. It's a LeGrand Traveler. So, it's a cartridge filler, not a piston filler.

    I'm tired of using the freaking cartridges. Like the pens, Montblanc everything else is ridiculously over-expensive. When you get a Montblanc, you are 100% paying for the name. I have far better fountain pens—better nibs, better materials, better writers, more reliable, less fussy—that cost a fifth as much. So, fuck it, let's make this cheaper and open up the possibility of using other ink.

    There's a dude online who used a Monteverde small converter along with some butt splices to make the conversion. The great thing about this method is that it's entirely non-invasive. It doesn't void the warranty, it makes no permanent changes whatsoever.

    The biggest bitch of it is to cut off a piece of the butt splice. It has to be pretty exact. It has to grip onto the rest on the cartridge cage and provide no play for the converter.

    IMG_7773.jpg

    After a lot of trial-and-error, I was able to get this and the converter to fit rather nicely inside the cage. But notice: you can't fill the pen by drawing in from the converter through the nib. What this means is that you need to draw the ink out through the nib using Q-tips to get it started. This takes a bit but once it's going, it's going.

    IMG_7772.jpg

    After that, you're good to go.

    IMG_7774.jpg

    (Sailor 143 for the absolutely nobody out there wondering.)

    Please love yourself.

    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
    • bachophileB Offline
      bachophileB Offline
      bachophile
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      83D655E6-5467-4DFA-88B6-473487D135A8.jpeg

      After a lot of trial and error I was able to get this thing to work but not satisfying

      I think it’s time I switched to montblanc.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
        Aqua LetiferA Offline
        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
        #3

        😄

        Well, you're a doc. C'mon, you should have one.

        Please love yourself.

        JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          I have a Montblanc pen from my father-in-law. It works very well, but it's not a typical 145. It's a LeGrand Traveler. So, it's a cartridge filler, not a piston filler.

          I'm tired of using the freaking cartridges. Like the pens, Montblanc everything else is ridiculously over-expensive. When you get a Montblanc, you are 100% paying for the name. I have far better fountain pens—better nibs, better materials, better writers, more reliable, less fussy—that cost a fifth as much. So, fuck it, let's make this cheaper and open up the possibility of using other ink.

          There's a dude online who used a Monteverde small converter along with some butt splices to make the conversion. The great thing about this method is that it's entirely non-invasive. It doesn't void the warranty, it makes no permanent changes whatsoever.

          The biggest bitch of it is to cut off a piece of the butt splice. It has to be pretty exact. It has to grip onto the rest on the cartridge cage and provide no play for the converter.

          IMG_7773.jpg

          After a lot of trial-and-error, I was able to get this and the converter to fit rather nicely inside the cage. But notice: you can't fill the pen by drawing in from the converter through the nib. What this means is that you need to draw the ink out through the nib using Q-tips to get it started. This takes a bit but once it's going, it's going.

          IMG_7772.jpg

          After that, you're good to go.

          IMG_7774.jpg

          (Sailor 143 for the absolutely nobody out there wondering.)

          HoraceH Offline
          HoraceH Offline
          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

          (Sailor 143 for the absolutely nobody out there wondering.)

          It's nobody's lucky day! Here's a feast of information about Sailor 143:

          https://fountainpenpharmacist.com/blog/ink-review-133-sailor-studio-143

          Education is extremely important.

          Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Will it make my writing legible? Anymore I go back and look at my own notes wondering what the hell words I supposed I was writing down.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

            Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
            • HoraceH Horace

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

              (Sailor 143 for the absolutely nobody out there wondering.)

              It's nobody's lucky day! Here's a feast of information about Sailor 143:

              https://fountainpenpharmacist.com/blog/ink-review-133-sailor-studio-143

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Horace said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

              (Sailor 143 for the absolutely nobody out there wondering.)

              It's nobody's lucky day! Here's a feast of information about Sailor 143:

              https://fountainpenpharmacist.com/blog/ink-review-133-sailor-studio-143

              And for a deep dive into butt splices, here's jon's sister!

              Please love yourself.

              Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
              • MikM Mik

                Will it make my writing legible? Anymore I go back and look at my own notes wondering what the hell words I supposed I was writing down.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Mik said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                Will it make my writing legible? Anymore I go back and look at my own notes wondering what the hell words I supposed I was writing down.

                No it will not. 😄 However, no writing cramps with fountain pens and they do change your handwriting somewhat due to the nib shape and the way you have to hold them.

                Please love yourself.

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                • bachophileB Offline
                  bachophileB Offline
                  bachophile
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  I had one. Another extravagant gift. I think I actually gave it away. Pens don’t do it for me.

                  Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                  • bachophileB Offline
                    bachophileB Offline
                    bachophile
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Nor watches. I don’t have many status items.

                    AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                    • bachophileB bachophile

                      I had one. Another extravagant gift. I think I actually gave it away. Pens don’t do it for me.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @bachophile said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                      I had one. Another extravagant gift. I think I actually gave it away. Pens don’t do it for me.

                      That's fair. I personally couldn't give a shit about the pageantry of them. I need pens that damn work. Instead of sitting down to write long letters or notes or something, I write short notes about 50 times a day. So my main pen's a Vanishing Point.

                      Attached to my wallet, though, is a Kaweco Lilliput. Very small, aluminum, impossible to leak. Didn't even cost $50.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        I've never had an expensive pen - I figured it would get lost.

                        Ditto watches. I got a Raymond Weil as a gift once. Never wear it.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Horace said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                          (Sailor 143 for the absolutely nobody out there wondering.)

                          It's nobody's lucky day! Here's a feast of information about Sailor 143:

                          https://fountainpenpharmacist.com/blog/ink-review-133-sailor-studio-143

                          And for a deep dive into butt splices, here's jon's sister!

                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                          And for a deep dive into butt splices, here's jon's sister!

                          She's also up to Sailor 143 this week.

                          I was only joking

                          Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                            And for a deep dive into butt splices, here's jon's sister!

                            She's also up to Sailor 143 this week.

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                            And for a deep dive into butt splices, here's jon's sister!

                            She's also up to Sailor 143 this week.

                            😄

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              😄

                              Well, you're a doc. C'mon, you should have one.

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by Jolly
                              #14

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                              😄

                              Well, you're a doc. C'mon, you should have one.

                              True story...

                              Wife and I went out to a new restaurant last week. As we were seated, she looked at me and said, "The food must be good, I recognized three doctors as we walked to the table".

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                Nor watches. I don’t have many status items.

                                AxtremusA Offline
                                AxtremusA Offline
                                Axtremus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @bachophile said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                                Nor watches. I don’t have many status items.

                                You are a doctor, a heart surgeon; you don't need status items in today's society.

                                George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @bachophile said in Fitting the Montblanc's Butt Splices:

                                  Nor watches. I don’t have many status items.

                                  You are a doctor, a heart surgeon; you don't need status items in today's society.

                                  George KG Offline
                                  George KG Offline
                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Axtremus he's not a heart surgeon. He deals with boobs and guts.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • bachophileB Offline
                                    bachophileB Offline
                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Yea. Just sewage and fat. Very unglamorous

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      Yeah, well, let it back up and see what happens.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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