No cooperation with the defense
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Why would you want a lighter sentence for that animal? Let him stay in jail until the fight is out of him.
@Mik said in No cooperation with the defense:
Why would you want a lighter sentence for that animal? Let him stay in jail until the fight is out of him.
I don't know how much is true, but I read somewhere that he's autistic and had the emotional control of a 4-6 year old. His mother posted this. Obviously, she's not unbiased.
https://flaglerlive.com/brendan-depa-my-son-story/#gsc.tab=0
He clearly needs something. I'm not convinced it's jail.
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@Mik said in No cooperation with the defense:
Why would you want a lighter sentence for that animal? Let him stay in jail until the fight is out of him.
I don't know how much is true, but I read somewhere that he's autistic and had the emotional control of a 4-6 year old. His mother posted this. Obviously, she's not unbiased.
https://flaglerlive.com/brendan-depa-my-son-story/#gsc.tab=0
He clearly needs something. I'm not convinced it's jail.
@Doctor-Phibes said in No cooperation with the defense:
@Mik said in No cooperation with the defense:
Why would you want a lighter sentence for that animal? Let him stay in jail until the fight is out of him.
I don't know how much is true, but I read somewhere that he's autistic and had the emotional control of a 4-6 year old. His mother posted this. Obviously, she's not unbiased.
https://flaglerlive.com/brendan-depa-my-son-story/#gsc.tab=0
He clearly needs something. I'm not convinced it's jail.
I am. Either his parents dropped the ball in getting him the help he needed or if he was beyond help and that much of a danger, he had no business walking around unsupervised.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No cooperation with the defense:
@Mik said in No cooperation with the defense:
Why would you want a lighter sentence for that animal? Let him stay in jail until the fight is out of him.
I don't know how much is true, but I read somewhere that he's autistic and had the emotional control of a 4-6 year old. His mother posted this. Obviously, she's not unbiased.
https://flaglerlive.com/brendan-depa-my-son-story/#gsc.tab=0
He clearly needs something. I'm not convinced it's jail.
I am. Either his parents dropped the ball in getting him the help he needed or if he was beyond help and that much of a danger, he had no business walking around unsupervised.
@Aqua-Letifer said in No cooperation with the defense:
Either his parents dropped the ball in getting him the help he needed or if he was beyond help and that much of a danger, he had no business walking around unsupervised.
Clearly he had no business walking around unsupervised. That doesn't necessarily mean he should go to jail. Maybe either his parents or the school are responsible? In either case, he's not the one who made the decision - in fact it looks quite possible that he wasn't capable of making that decision.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in No cooperation with the defense:
Either his parents dropped the ball in getting him the help he needed or if he was beyond help and that much of a danger, he had no business walking around unsupervised.
Clearly he had no business walking around unsupervised. That doesn't necessarily mean he should go to jail. Maybe either his parents or the school are responsible? In either case, he's not the one who made the decision - in fact it looks quite possible that he wasn't capable of making that decision.
@Doctor-Phibes said in No cooperation with the defense:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No cooperation with the defense:
Either his parents dropped the ball in getting him the help he needed or if he was beyond help and that much of a danger, he had no business walking around unsupervised.
Clearly he had no business walking around unsupervised. That doesn't necessarily mean he should go to jail. Maybe either his parents or the school are responsible? In either case, he's not the one who made the decision - in fact it looks quite possible that he wasn't capable of making that decision.
Fair enough but no, someone needs to go to jail. Plenty of other kids are walking around out there with autism more and less severe than this kid and they aren't putting people in hospitals. I don't buy autism = assault is understandable.
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I think the foster mom is close to sainthood. She’s endured and persevered above and beyond others advocating, helping this boy. I couldn’t be so resilient and articulate of my own kid’s developmental, behavioural history. For years, she’s navigated the educational, medical, psych, governmental, insurance systems while enduring significant life altering events of other family members. The schools, therapists, caregivers, medical people have reached the end point. I don’t know what institution cares for such severely autistic young adults, but it’s not jail. This big young adult is stuck for life I with the brain of a young child. He needs lifelong psych institutional placement with lifelong medication for behavioural relapses.
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I'm not saying he shouldn't be in a secure institution. I remain unconvinced it should be jail.
Whether he can be treated or not, who knows? I'm not a Doctor, despite what it says on the can.
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I hope the educational aide can seek adequate compensation from the school board. Or be represented well enough to sue for compensation. These people are paid poorly. It’s the worst job out there. They’ve little imput or control. They take the brunt of all the treatment plans, IEPs, the decisions of others. There are no success stories with kids with such severe problems.
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The foster mom imo needs her own psych support to process and grieve separation from this kid. Life events like this change people, even the most resilient. I’ve seen it with parents dealing with decades of chronic disease with a child, also those dealing with kids with psych illness, like schizophrenia.
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The foster mom imo needs her own psych support to process and grieve separation from this kid. Life events like this change people, even the most resilient. I’ve seen it with parents dealing with decades of chronic disease with a child, also those dealing with kids with psych illness, like schizophrenia.
@blondie said in No cooperation with the defense:
The foster mom imo needs her own psych support to process and grieve separation from this kid. Life events like this change people, even the most resilient. I’ve seen it with parents dealing with decades of chronic disease with a child, also those dealing with kids with psych illness, like schizophrenia.
Agree. There's really nothing but victims in this situation. The teacher, the parents, even the kid.
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I think the foster mom is close to sainthood. She’s endured and persevered above and beyond others advocating, helping this boy. I couldn’t be so resilient and articulate of my own kid’s developmental, behavioural history. For years, she’s navigated the educational, medical, psych, governmental, insurance systems while enduring significant life altering events of other family members. The schools, therapists, caregivers, medical people have reached the end point. I don’t know what institution cares for such severely autistic young adults, but it’s not jail. This big young adult is stuck for life I with the brain of a young child. He needs lifelong psych institutional placement with lifelong medication for behavioural relapses.
@blondie said in No cooperation with the defense:
I think the foster mom is close to sainthood. She’s endured and persevered above and beyond others advocating, helping this boy. I couldn’t be so resilient and articulate of my own kid’s developmental, behavioural history. For years, she’s navigated the educational, medical, psych, governmental, insurance systems while enduring significant life altering events of other family members. The schools, therapists, caregivers, medical people have reached the end point. I don’t know what institution cares for such severely autistic young adults, but it’s not jail. This big young adult is stuck for life I with the brain of a young child. He needs lifelong psych institutional placement with lifelong medication for behavioural relapses.
Totally agree with one caveat, the judge ruled that he was competent to stand trial, so perhaps the judge knows enough of the facts. Otherwise, you are right @blondie , institutionalize and medicate. In jail, he'd be medicated anyway and would likely kill or be killed quickly based on his emotional stability.
Presuming he doesn't have control of his emotions, it's really sad too. I've seen it firsthand... my younger sister has the mental equivalent of a 4 year old (she's 36 now) and I can't imagine trying to control that in a 270 pound person. My sister swallows batteries (honestly does this about once a month... usually AA batteries, she has an uncontrollable urge to consume things, such as mouthwash, wine, batteries, anything she's not suppose to have) and she is in the hospital often. Heck I just found out last night that she is getting kicked out of her group home in 2 weeks because of outbursts. My parents have dealt with this since she was born in 1987, wetting the bed each night, outbursts, can't go on trips, to restaurants, locks on the fridge... to parent a special needs child is a burden that is massively underestimated. About 2 years ago my parents finally made the decision to let her live with a few others in a group home. In theory, it's better for both my parents and my sister at this point... but the emotional instability is always present.
@blondie saw your other post just now... yes the foster mom needs help too. How much she has invested only to watch this tragic event happen. Very sad.
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I have to agree with Blondie, Phibes and 89. Don’t ask why either because I will not explain how I arrive at that conclusion. Suffice to say I fully understand and empathise with the foster mother.
Incarceration in a jail for this youth is not an answer or a deterrent. Fluid reasoning as we understand it is far beyond his capacity. Institutionalization in a suitable mental health facility is the only civilised option for this unfortunate.
Elbows up!
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Thanks for sharing of your sister 89th. You’re mature beyond your years. You, your parents live this. The judge made a mistake. Those who live this understand. Special Needs has its own special spectrum, and lots of it is invisible. There’s stigma with it. There’s no cure. Some moments of relief sometimes, but it’s lifelong chronic for all involved.
