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Why spend $2K on a perfectly good engine?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    I didn't understand 80% of what @Jolly was saying.

    But, the mechanic sure sounds like he knows his stuff.

    my son was religious in changing oil before the manufacturer's stated intervals

    Isn't current thinking (by the manufacturer) once a year? I go every 6 months or so.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      I didn't understand 80% of what @Jolly was saying.

      But, the mechanic sure sounds like he knows his stuff.

      my son was religious in changing oil before the manufacturer's stated intervals

      Isn't current thinking (by the manufacturer) once a year? I go every 6 months or so.

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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      @George-K said in Why spend $2K on a perfectly good engine?:

      I didn't understand 80% of what @Jolly was saying.

      But, the mechanic sure sounds like he knows his stuff.

      my son was religious in changing oil before the manufacturer's stated intervals

      Isn't current thinking (by the manufacturer) once a year? I go every 6 months or so.

      A lot of the manufacturers overstate their intervals. The recommended oil change interval on that 5.7 hemi is 10,000 miles. That's horse hockey in my book.

      Syn-blend is not over 4k for me and full synthetic is not over 6k. To be honest, I usually change full synthetic at 5k. I tend to run Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage. But even Walmart oil is ok (it's the same as Costco and Amazon Basic), if you run a decent filter and change it religiously.

      More than you'd ever want to know about motor oil...

      https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @George-K said in Why spend $2K on a perfectly good engine?:

        I didn't understand 80% of what @Jolly was saying.

        But, the mechanic sure sounds like he knows his stuff.

        my son was religious in changing oil before the manufacturer's stated intervals

        Isn't current thinking (by the manufacturer) once a year? I go every 6 months or so.

        A lot of the manufacturers overstate their intervals. The recommended oil change interval on that 5.7 hemi is 10,000 miles. That's horse hockey in my book.

        Syn-blend is not over 4k for me and full synthetic is not over 6k. To be honest, I usually change full synthetic at 5k. I tend to run Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage. But even Walmart oil is ok (it's the same as Costco and Amazon Basic), if you run a decent filter and change it religiously.

        More than you'd ever want to know about motor oil...

        https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/

        George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        @Jolly my 2017 A4 just broke 35K miles - (grin). When I bought it in 2018, it had 11K miles. So I average about 4K miles a year.

        Still gonna do it every 6 months. I can look out my window and see the garage (about 1 ½ blocks away), so it's never inconvenient to do this.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Typical cam lobes, always causing trouble... and those hemi tick starts, pain in the rear!

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          Jolly
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          #7

          @89th said in Why spend $2K on a perfectly good engine?:

          Typical cam lobes, always causing trouble... and those hemi tick starts, pain in the rear!

          It's the lifters. And Dodge (Stelantis nowadays) knows it. All they'd have to do, is change the lifter design, use a higher volume oil pump and decrease the recommended change interval. It would turn it into a 200,000 mile engine.

          I don't understand it...With a little thought and a few dollars in parts changes, the manufacturer creates a more durable product. Everyone is running around with their hair on fire, wirshipping at the feet of the Green Goddess. Well, it takes a lot of material and energybto make a vehicle.

          Why don't we make one that lasts for a long time? That's the greenest solution of all.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Jolly
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              #9

              And...I believe in Right To Repair Laws...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • RainmanR Offline
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                Rainman
                wrote on last edited by Rainman
                #10

                But don't most people trade in their cars long before the drivetrain blows up? That's why I would definitely need to see the service records before buying any car. Even George's, if he never changed the oil, or rarely did.

                Any chance you want to share what the price tag is for your son's mechanic doing this work? He will have a high mileage car, as impressive as it is, with the hope that the work will make the difference in the car lasting a long time. And then, some idiot takes it out and over-revs it all day long and brings it back steaming from the heat. "Nah, guess I don't want to buy it after all."

                It would be great to have a shop in your home where you could take on such work as is being done. It's fun, and like Jolly points out, changes the lifespan of a car you want to keep forever, if that's the plan.

                ETA: Jolly, do you have a picture of your son's car you'd share? I love this kind of stuff!

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  Yeah, I run full synthetic and change it at about 6K. They say you can go 10-12K, but it just doesn't cost that much. Changing fluids and filters is the best thing you can do to keep your car running well into the years.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • RainmanR Rainman

                    But don't most people trade in their cars long before the drivetrain blows up? That's why I would definitely need to see the service records before buying any car. Even George's, if he never changed the oil, or rarely did.

                    Any chance you want to share what the price tag is for your son's mechanic doing this work? He will have a high mileage car, as impressive as it is, with the hope that the work will make the difference in the car lasting a long time. And then, some idiot takes it out and over-revs it all day long and brings it back steaming from the heat. "Nah, guess I don't want to buy it after all."

                    It would be great to have a shop in your home where you could take on such work as is being done. It's fun, and like Jolly points out, changes the lifespan of a car you want to keep forever, if that's the plan.

                    ETA: Jolly, do you have a picture of your son's car you'd share? I love this kind of stuff!

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                    Jolly
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                    #12

                    @Rainman said in Why spend $2K on a perfectly good engine?:

                    But don't most people trade in their cars long before the drivetrain blows up? That's why I would definitely need to see the service records before buying any car. Even George's, if he never changed the oil, or rarely did.

                    Any chance you want to share what the price tag is for your son's mechanic doing this work? He will have a high mileage car, as impressive as it is, with the hope that the work will make the difference in the car lasting a long time. And then, some idiot takes it out and over-revs it all day long and brings it back steaming from the heat. "Nah, guess I don't want to buy it after all."

                    It would be great to have a shop in your home where you could take on such work as is being done. It's fun, and like Jolly points out, changes the lifespan of a car you want to keep forever, if that's the plan.

                    ETA: Jolly, do you have a picture of your son's car you'd share? I love this kind of stuff!

                    $2K, as in the thread title. His car is similar to this, but with the black Hellcat stripes on top.

                    alt text

                    His wife drives a Hellcat, Bad Kitty

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • RainmanR Offline
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                      Rainman
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      Only $2k? That seems really inexpensive.
                      I would guess double that around here.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                        #14

                        Move to Texas. 🙂

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Rainman
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          I would LOVE to move to Texas.
                          Or even back to Arizona.
                          Although it's not too bad here, fire going in the fireplace, quiet, cup of tea. Yeah, OK. For the moment.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            There's still room here, but it's filling up fast.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • MikM Away
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              Portland is arguably the most beautiful American city. But the attitude…..

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Portland is arguably the most beautiful American city. But the attitude…..

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                @Mik said in Why spend $2K on a perfectly good engine?:

                                Portland is was arguably the most beautiful American city. But the attitude…..

                                There.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  There's still room here, but it's filling up fast.

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                                  @Horace said in Why spend $2K on a perfectly good engine?:

                                  There's still room here, but it's filling up fast.

                                  Build that wall!

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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