Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?
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At this point, every outcome is as likely as any other,” former Rep. Peter Meijer, a Michigan Republican who’s considering a Senate bid, told The Dispatch on Friday. “Might as well just start throwing a 222-sided die and keep holding votes round and round until January 3, 2025.”
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Gaetz, who led the charge against McCarthy, blamed “the swamp” for Jordan’s defeat. “The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot, in a private meeting, in the basement of the Capitol,” he told reporters. “It’s as swampy as swamp gets,
@taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
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Gaetz, who led the charge against McCarthy, blamed “the swamp” for Jordan’s defeat. “The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot, in a private meeting, in the basement of the Capitol,” he told reporters. “It’s as swampy as swamp gets,
If that guy's the most popular Republican, imagine how hated the rest of them must be.
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
I ain't skeered...
Perhaps but you’ve offered no opinion since the majority of the GOP conference told Jordan to fuck off already.
What’s your response to yet another Trump pick losing? And not just in a general but among elected Republicans!?
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
I ain't skeered...
Perhaps but you’ve offered no opinion since the majority of the GOP conference told Jordan to fuck off already.
What’s your response to yet another Trump pick losing? And not just in a general but among elected Republicans!?
@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
I ain't skeered...
Perhaps but you’ve offered no opinion since the majority of the GOP conference told Jordan to fuck off already.
What’s your response to yet another Trump pick losing? And not just in a general but among elected Republicans!?
Machts nix.
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@jon-nyc I think it is the one where everybody MUST vote for whoever gets the most votes in the secret ballot for the next speaker.
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Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if their ever was one.
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Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if their ever was one.
@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if there ever was one.
Gladwell makes a similar point in "Blink." He talks about a psychologist who looks at marriages:
Contempt
The second horseman is contempt. When we communicate in this state, we are truly mean—we treat others with disrespect, mock them with sarcasm, ridicule, call them names, and mimic or use body language such as eye-rolling or scoffing. The target of contempt is made to feel despised and worthless.
Contempt goes far beyond criticism. While criticism attacks your partner’s character, contempt assumes a position of moral superiority over them:
“You’re ‘tired?’ Cry me a river. I’ve been with the kids all day, running around like mad to keep this house going and all you do when you come home from work is flop down on that sofa like a child and play those idiotic video games. I don’t have time to deal with another kid. Could you be any more pathetic?”
Research even shows that couples that are contemptuous of each other are more likely to suffer from infectious illness (colds, the flu, etc.) than others due to weakened immune systems! Contempt is fueled by long-simmering negative thoughts about the partner—which come to a head when the perpetrator attacks the accused from a position of relative superiority.
Most importantly, contempt is the single greatest predictor of divorce. It must be eliminated.
Sorry to veer off-topic, Jon's comment brought this to mind.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if there ever was one.
Gladwell makes a similar point in "Blink." He talks about a psychologist who looks at marriages:
Contempt
The second horseman is contempt. When we communicate in this state, we are truly mean—we treat others with disrespect, mock them with sarcasm, ridicule, call them names, and mimic or use body language such as eye-rolling or scoffing. The target of contempt is made to feel despised and worthless.
Contempt goes far beyond criticism. While criticism attacks your partner’s character, contempt assumes a position of moral superiority over them:
“You’re ‘tired?’ Cry me a river. I’ve been with the kids all day, running around like mad to keep this house going and all you do when you come home from work is flop down on that sofa like a child and play those idiotic video games. I don’t have time to deal with another kid. Could you be any more pathetic?”
Research even shows that couples that are contemptuous of each other are more likely to suffer from infectious illness (colds, the flu, etc.) than others due to weakened immune systems! Contempt is fueled by long-simmering negative thoughts about the partner—which come to a head when the perpetrator attacks the accused from a position of relative superiority.
Most importantly, contempt is the single greatest predictor of divorce. It must be eliminated.
Sorry to veer off-topic, Jon's comment brought this to mind.
@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if there ever was one.
Gladwell makes a similar point in "Blink." He talks about a psychologist who looks at marriages:
Contempt
The second horseman is contempt. When we communicate in this state, we are truly mean—we treat others with disrespect, mock them with sarcasm, ridicule, call them names, and mimic or use body language such as eye-rolling or scoffing. The target of contempt is made to feel despised and worthless.
Contempt goes far beyond criticism. While criticism attacks your partner’s character, contempt assumes a position of moral superiority over them:
“You’re ‘tired?’ Cry me a river. I’ve been with the kids all day, running around like mad to keep this house going and all you do when you come home from work is flop down on that sofa like a child and play those idiotic video games. I don’t have time to deal with another kid. Could you be any more pathetic?”
Research even shows that couples that are contemptuous of each other are more likely to suffer from infectious illness (colds, the flu, etc.) than others due to weakened immune systems! Contempt is fueled by long-simmering negative thoughts about the partner—which come to a head when the perpetrator attacks the accused from a position of relative superiority.
Most importantly, contempt is the single greatest predictor of divorce. It must be eliminated.
Sorry to veer off-topic, Jon's comment brought this to mind.
I heard it in some podcast interview with a marriage counselor.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/24/house-speaker-vote/
The House GOP entered a process where they would vote by secret ballots, the candidate with the fewest vote in a round of voting is eliminated. Presumably the process would continue until there is a "last survivor." Even then there is no guarantee that the last survivor will make Speaker.
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On the Democratic side:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/
Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote. “
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... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”
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Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ... -
On the Democratic side:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/
Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote. “
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... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”
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Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ...@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/
Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote. “
Presumably this means that the Speaker will no longer have the power to keep bills from hitting the floor.
I've always thought that to be a kind of silly rule, giving one person that power.
But, as usual, the devil's in the details.
Who will count the "majority" of House members?
Is this a permanent rule change, or only a temp solution to what's hopefully a temporary problem.
Like many proposed changes (see Harry Reid), it can come around to bite someone in the ass.
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@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Tom Emmer is the latest contestant in the game ‘who can unite 98.2% of the GOP caucus’.
...and most likely 100% of the Democrats
