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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    #163

    Howard Cosell mode/

    Down goes Jordan! Down goes Jordan!

    /Howard Cosell mode

    Elbows up!

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #164

      Best comment:

      GOP Moderates to Jordan: Who's the squish now???

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #165

        LOL

        Gaetz, who led the charge against McCarthy, blamed “the swamp” for Jordan’s defeat. “The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot, in a private meeting, in the basement of the Capitol,” he told reporters. “It’s as swampy as swamp gets,

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          Screenshot 2023-10-20 at 9.15.51 PM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            #167

            At this point, every outcome is as likely as any other,” former Rep. Peter Meijer, a Michigan Republican who’s considering a Senate bid, told The Dispatch on Friday. “Might as well just start throwing a 222-sided die and keep holding votes round and round until January 3, 2025.”

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              LOL

              Gaetz, who led the charge against McCarthy, blamed “the swamp” for Jordan’s defeat. “The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot, in a private meeting, in the basement of the Capitol,” he told reporters. “It’s as swampy as swamp gets,

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #168

              @taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

              LOL

              Gaetz, who led the charge against McCarthy, blamed “the swamp” for Jordan’s defeat. “The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot, in a private meeting, in the basement of the Capitol,” he told reporters. “It’s as swampy as swamp gets,

              If that guy's the most popular Republican, imagine how hated the rest of them must be.

              I was only joking

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #169

                IMG_0755.jpg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  I ain't skeered...

                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #170

                  @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  I ain't skeered...

                  Perhaps but you’ve offered no opinion since the majority of the GOP conference told Jordan to fuck off already.

                  What’s your response to yet another Trump pick losing? And not just in a general but among elected Republicans!?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    I ain't skeered...

                    Perhaps but you’ve offered no opinion since the majority of the GOP conference told Jordan to fuck off already.

                    What’s your response to yet another Trump pick losing? And not just in a general but among elected Republicans!?

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                    #171

                    @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    I ain't skeered...

                    Perhaps but you’ve offered no opinion since the majority of the GOP conference told Jordan to fuck off already.

                    What’s your response to yet another Trump pick losing? And not just in a general but among elected Republicans!?

                    Machts nix.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      #172

                      F8-_FcBWYAAbIku.jpeg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #173

                        Wow. What’s the resolution he’s asking them about?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Wow. What’s the resolution he’s asking them about?

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          #174

                          @jon-nyc I think it is the one where everybody MUST vote for whoever gets the most votes in the secret ballot for the next speaker.

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                          • George KG George K

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                            HoraceH Offline
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                            @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                            F8-_FcBWYAAbIku.jpeg

                            In a marriage, sarcasm and contempt is a sign that it's over but for the paperwork.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if their ever was one.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if their ever was one.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if there ever was one.

                                Gladwell makes a similar point in "Blink." He talks about a psychologist who looks at marriages:

                                https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-recognizing-criticism-contempt-defensiveness-and-stonewalling/


                                Contempt

                                The second horseman is contempt. When we communicate in this state, we are truly mean—we treat others with disrespect, mock them with sarcasm, ridicule, call them names, and mimic or use body language such as eye-rolling or scoffing. The target of contempt is made to feel despised and worthless.

                                Contempt goes far beyond criticism. While criticism attacks your partner’s character, contempt assumes a position of moral superiority over them:

                                “You’re ‘tired?’ Cry me a river. I’ve been with the kids all day, running around like mad to keep this house going and all you do when you come home from work is flop down on that sofa like a child and play those idiotic video games. I don’t have time to deal with another kid. Could you be any more pathetic?”

                                Research even shows that couples that are contemptuous of each other are more likely to suffer from infectious illness (colds, the flu, etc.) than others due to weakened immune systems! Contempt is fueled by long-simmering negative thoughts about the partner—which come to a head when the perpetrator attacks the accused from a position of relative superiority.

                                Most importantly, contempt is the single greatest predictor of divorce. It must be eliminated.


                                Sorry to veer off-topic, Jon's comment brought this to mind.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • AxtremusA Away
                                  AxtremusA Away
                                  Axtremus
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                                  #178

                                  Nine-way contest among House GOP for the next round of voting?

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if there ever was one.

                                    Gladwell makes a similar point in "Blink." He talks about a psychologist who looks at marriages:

                                    https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-recognizing-criticism-contempt-defensiveness-and-stonewalling/


                                    Contempt

                                    The second horseman is contempt. When we communicate in this state, we are truly mean—we treat others with disrespect, mock them with sarcasm, ridicule, call them names, and mimic or use body language such as eye-rolling or scoffing. The target of contempt is made to feel despised and worthless.

                                    Contempt goes far beyond criticism. While criticism attacks your partner’s character, contempt assumes a position of moral superiority over them:

                                    “You’re ‘tired?’ Cry me a river. I’ve been with the kids all day, running around like mad to keep this house going and all you do when you come home from work is flop down on that sofa like a child and play those idiotic video games. I don’t have time to deal with another kid. Could you be any more pathetic?”

                                    Research even shows that couples that are contemptuous of each other are more likely to suffer from infectious illness (colds, the flu, etc.) than others due to weakened immune systems! Contempt is fueled by long-simmering negative thoughts about the partner—which come to a head when the perpetrator attacks the accused from a position of relative superiority.

                                    Most importantly, contempt is the single greatest predictor of divorce. It must be eliminated.


                                    Sorry to veer off-topic, Jon's comment brought this to mind.

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                                    #179

                                    @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    Funny, Horace, many many years ago I read a piece in the New Yorker I think by a very senior marriage counselor. He said that, in his experience, the biggest predictor of divorce is when one spouse rolls their eyes at the other. A sign of contempt or lack of respect if there ever was one.

                                    Gladwell makes a similar point in "Blink." He talks about a psychologist who looks at marriages:

                                    https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-recognizing-criticism-contempt-defensiveness-and-stonewalling/


                                    Contempt

                                    The second horseman is contempt. When we communicate in this state, we are truly mean—we treat others with disrespect, mock them with sarcasm, ridicule, call them names, and mimic or use body language such as eye-rolling or scoffing. The target of contempt is made to feel despised and worthless.

                                    Contempt goes far beyond criticism. While criticism attacks your partner’s character, contempt assumes a position of moral superiority over them:

                                    “You’re ‘tired?’ Cry me a river. I’ve been with the kids all day, running around like mad to keep this house going and all you do when you come home from work is flop down on that sofa like a child and play those idiotic video games. I don’t have time to deal with another kid. Could you be any more pathetic?”

                                    Research even shows that couples that are contemptuous of each other are more likely to suffer from infectious illness (colds, the flu, etc.) than others due to weakened immune systems! Contempt is fueled by long-simmering negative thoughts about the partner—which come to a head when the perpetrator attacks the accused from a position of relative superiority.

                                    Most importantly, contempt is the single greatest predictor of divorce. It must be eliminated.


                                    Sorry to veer off-topic, Jon's comment brought this to mind.

                                    I heard it in some podcast interview with a marriage counselor.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • AxtremusA Away
                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      Axtremus
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                                      #180

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/24/house-speaker-vote/

                                      The House GOP entered a process where they would vote by secret ballots, the candidate with the fewest vote in a round of voting is eliminated. Presumably the process would continue until there is a "last survivor." Even then there is no guarantee that the last survivor will make Speaker.

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                                      • AxtremusA Away
                                        AxtremusA Away
                                        Axtremus
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                                        #181

                                        On the Democratic side:

                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/

                                        Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote.
“
                                        .
                                        ... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”

                                        .
                                        Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ...

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          On the Democratic side:

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/

                                          Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote.
“
                                          .
                                          ... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”

                                          .
                                          Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ...

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/

                                          Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote.
“

                                          Presumably this means that the Speaker will no longer have the power to keep bills from hitting the floor.

                                          I've always thought that to be a kind of silly rule, giving one person that power.

                                          But, as usual, the devil's in the details.

                                          Who will count the "majority" of House members?

                                          Is this a permanent rule change, or only a temp solution to what's hopefully a temporary problem.

                                          Like many proposed changes (see Harry Reid), it can come around to bite someone in the ass.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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