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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #9

    Yeah, that was certainly the intention for those original territories and the Louisiana Purchase, and the territory gained from Mexico.

    It was only in the Spanish American war that we gained territories that people then had no intention of turning into a state. It was very controversial, a prominent 'Anti-Imperialist League' was formed over it.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      #10

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Anti-Imperialist_League

      Check out the prominent member list.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Did u know that the District of Columbia is a member of the unrpresented nations and peoples organization?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrepresented_Nations_and_Peoples_Organization?wprov=sfsi1

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Wrong null hypothesis. The union was a compact among states.

          FWIW Puerto Rico has voted against statehood a number of times.

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          @jon-nyc said in No representation:

          Wrong null hypothesis. The union was a compact among states.

          FWIW Puerto Rico has voted against statehood a number of times.

          If they had voted for statehood, I think it very probable they would have been the 51st.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @jon-nyc said in No representation:

            Wrong null hypothesis. The union was a compact among states.

            FWIW Puerto Rico has voted against statehood a number of times.

            If they had voted for statehood, I think it very probable they would have been the 51st.

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            @Jolly said in No representation:

            @jon-nyc said in No representation:

            Wrong null hypothesis. The union was a compact among states.

            FWIW Puerto Rico has voted against statehood a number of times.

            If they had voted for statehood, I think it very probable they would have been the 51st.

            Too lazy to look it up - why did they not vote for statehood?

            Presumably the benefits of statehood aren't worth it. Wonder what those are?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Jolly said in No representation:

              @jon-nyc said in No representation:

              Wrong null hypothesis. The union was a compact among states.

              FWIW Puerto Rico has voted against statehood a number of times.

              If they had voted for statehood, I think it very probable they would have been the 51st.

              Too lazy to look it up - why did they not vote for statehood?

              Presumably the benefits of statehood aren't worth it. Wonder what those are?

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              @George-K said in No representation:

              Presumably the benefits of statehood aren't worth it. Wonder what those are?

              A new language?

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              • George KG George K

                @Jolly said in No representation:

                @jon-nyc said in No representation:

                Wrong null hypothesis. The union was a compact among states.

                FWIW Puerto Rico has voted against statehood a number of times.

                If they had voted for statehood, I think it very probable they would have been the 51st.

                Too lazy to look it up - why did they not vote for statehood?

                Presumably the benefits of statehood aren't worth it. Wonder what those are?

                jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
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                @George-K said in No representation:

                Too lazy to look it up - why did they not vote for statehood?

                Presumably the benefits of statehood aren't worth it. Wonder what those are?

                IIRC it was always a three way choice, statehood, independence, or status quo. Status quo always won. They used to have a special economic deal that encouraged businesses to locate there. So there was a lot of economic interest in status quo. People liked their US passports too and always had the option to go to the mainland.

                That’s what most pissed me off about Obama’s pardon of Oscar Lopez Rivera and how that was played in the press. They (The press) acted like he was this freedom fighter opposing American oppression when in reality he tried to achieve through violence what Puerto Rican voters roundly rejected multiple times at the ballot box.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Don't forget about Guam, the Marianna Island, American Samoa, etc.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #17

                    I think that was all Spanish empire bits we picked up in 1898

                    The anti-imperialist league was right.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • bachophileB bachophile

                      Did u know that the District of Columbia is a member of the unrpresented nations and peoples organization?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrepresented_Nations_and_Peoples_Organization?wprov=sfsi1

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                      @bachophile said in No representation:

                      Did u know that the District of Columbia is a member of the unrpresented nations and peoples organization?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrepresented_Nations_and_Peoples_Organization?wprov=sfsi1

                      And they get more practical representation than any city in the world.

                      The Brad

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