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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    Bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed to by the House Republican.

    Remind me, how many Democrats voted to retain McCarthy?

    Zero Democrat voted to retain McCarthy.

    Do you think that fact supports or undermines my thesis that "bipartisanship or non-partisanship is sorely needed by the House Republicans"?

    Mr. Pedantic, you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

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    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

    1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

    2. I have already answered George's question.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

      1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

      2. I have already answered George's question.

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      @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

      1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

      2. I have already answered George's question.

      That's the Ax-iest thing I've read in a long time.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

        1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

        2. I have already answered George's question.

        That's the Ax-iest thing I've read in a long time.

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        @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        ... you knew exactly what George meant. Why don't you just answer the question?

        1. I am not obligated to speculate on what else George might mean outside of his written words.

        2. I have already answered George's question.

        That's the Ax-iest thing I've read in a long time.

        Yep, complete and utter obfuscating bullshit.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG George K

          Why are the Democrats so hell-bent on stopping the business of governing the country? Only 8-10 would have prevented this. But they voted party over nation, again.

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          @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          Why are the Democrats so hell-bent on stopping the business of governing the country?

          It's the House Democrats who provided the necessary votes that averted a federal government shutdown. The Senate Democrats and the Democratic White House are also doing their part in continuing to govern.

          Only 8-10 would have prevented this. But they voted party over nation, again.

          Only 8-10 votes from the House Republicans could have joined the House Democrats to elect a Speaker not beholden to the tantrums of the likes of Gaetz. That could have, and still can, lead to a more functional House of Representatives. That would be good service to the nation.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

            Why are the Democrats so hell-bent on stopping the business of governing the country?

            It's the House Democrats who provided the necessary votes that averted a federal government shutdown. The Senate Democrats and the Democratic White House are also doing their part in continuing to govern.

            Only 8-10 would have prevented this. But they voted party over nation, again.

            Only 8-10 votes from the House Republicans could have joined the House Democrats to elect a Speaker not beholden to the tantrums of the likes of Gaetz. That could have, and still can, lead to a more functional House of Representatives. That would be good service to the nation.

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            @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

            It's the House Democrats who provided the necessary votes that averted a federal government shutdown. The Senate Democrats and the Democratic White House are also doing their part in continuing to govern.

            And yet, to a man, they voted to remove McCarthy. How does this mean that they want to govern? A bipartisan approach would have kept him in office. At least 8 brave GOP representatives broke with the ranks of their party and allied with the Democrats to forward their vision. That's bipartisanship.

            Only 8-10 votes from the House Republicans Democrats could have joined the House Democrats Republicans to elect a Speaker not beholden to the tantrums of the likes of Gaetz. That could have, and still can, lead to a more functional House of Representatives. That would be good service to the nation.

            FIFY

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

              It's the House Democrats who provided the necessary votes that averted a federal government shutdown. The Senate Democrats and the Democratic White House are also doing their part in continuing to govern.

              And yet, to a man, they voted to remove McCarthy. How does this mean that they want to govern? A bipartisan approach would have kept him in office. At least 8 brave GOP representatives broke with the ranks of their party and allied with the Democrats to forward their vision. That's bipartisanship.

              Only 8-10 votes from the House Republicans Democrats could have joined the House Democrats Republicans to elect a Speaker not beholden to the tantrums of the likes of Gaetz. That could have, and still can, lead to a more functional House of Representatives. That would be good service to the nation.

              FIFY

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              @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

              @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

              It's the House Democrats who provided the necessary votes that averted a federal government shutdown. The Senate Democrats and the Democratic White House are also doing their part in continuing to govern.

              And yet, to a man, they voted to remove McCarthy. How does this mean that they want to govern? A bipartisan approach would have kept him in office. At least 8 brave GOP representatives broke with the ranks of their party and allied with the Democrats to forward their vision. That's bipartisanship.

              1. McCarthy could have cut a deal with the House Democrats when he first ran for Speaker; that could have been bipartisan. McCarthy didn't, instead he gave in to the demands of Gaetz et al., thus sewn the seed of his own destruction. BAD.

              2. McCarthy cut a deal with the Democrats to raise the debt ceiling; that's bipartisan, that saved the federal government from default. GOOD!

              3. McCarthy put up a funding bill sufficiently palatable for the House Democrats to support; that's bipartisanship, that averted a government shutdown. GOOD!

              4. McCarthy could have cut a deal with the House Democrats to save his Speakership. McCarthy chose not to, that's not bipartisanship. The result is a House without a Speaker. BAD.

              Maybe you expect the Democrats to simply support McCarthy without getting anything in return. But that would be all "give" and no "take" on one side. All give and no take on one side is not bipartisanship.

              Only 8-10 votes from the House Republicans Democrats could have joined the House Democrats Republicans to elect a Speaker not beholden to the tantrums of the likes of Gaetz. That could have, and still can, lead to a more functional House of Representatives. That would be good service to the nation.

              FIFY

              Indeed your version may work too, see points #1 and #4 and the paragraph right below point #4 above.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                The eight Republicans that voted to vacate. Most of them make a pretty good case.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-8-republicans-who-voted-to-remove-mccarthy/ar-AA1hHQzV?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=78a9224b73aa42b9b94b34f5bd2de8de&ei=9

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  I hope Ax realizes Congress hasn't passed a true budget since W was in office.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • MikM Mik

                    The eight Republicans that voted to vacate. Most of them make a pretty good case.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-8-republicans-who-voted-to-remove-mccarthy/ar-AA1hHQzV?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=78a9224b73aa42b9b94b34f5bd2de8de&ei=9

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                    @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    The eight Republicans that voted to vacate. Most of them make a pretty good case.

                    Are the other 210 House Republicans wrong to not join these eight Republicans? Or do the other 210 House Republicans have good cases too?

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
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                      #105

                      FFS.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        FFS.

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                        @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                        FFS.

                        There are reasons to totally ignore some people...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #108

                            😆😆😆

                            I’m warming up to the idea.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Jolly
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                              #109

                              Imagine the look on Kamalalamadingdong's face...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
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                                Now here comes blame the Democrats and hang bipartisanship. Why would they want to prevent the GOP from shooting itself in the foot going into an election cycle? The frog and the scorpion.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-warn-of-mass-exodus-from-bipartisan-group-over-dem-failure-to-back-mccarthy/ar-AA1hKxq2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0ce7402a866248c9a48d85653bd34d25&ei=12

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Mik
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                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
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                                    WSJ not fond of Gaetz.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gaetz-co-a-tale-as-old-as-time/ar-AA1hLasR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2770893fa8934d32bbb290543b472cf4&ei=12

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
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                                        #114

                                        Meme gold mine.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          I think that second one dates back to the interminable voting in January.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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