2nd GOP Debate
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@Copper said in 2nd GOP Debate:
I watch about 3 minutes. Mr. Pence sounded ok, that's enough for now.
Yeah Pence is fine. Not flashy enough these days, which is sad. Would enjoy a Haley/Scott ticket. Christie I enjoy, but he reminds me of what elections were probably like in the 1890s.
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Everyone is pissed at Trump for not being there.
DiSantis blames Trump for sparking inflation.
@George-K said in 2nd GOP Debate:
Everyone is pissed at Trump for not being there.
DiSantis blames Trump for sparking inflation.
DeSantis is correct.
The Brad
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Not watching. Enjoying a can of the aforementioned Bell’s Double Two Hearted and putting together Legos.
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I heard this on the radio (actually the internet) this morning.
On Wednesday, seven Republican candidates for president will stand on stage at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., for the second GOP debate, hosted by FOX Business, Univision and Rumble.
Expect Reagan to feature prominently in name but not necessarily in policy as Republicans have moved further and further away from his values, raising the question of whether the longtime standard-bearer of the party would even have a place in today's GOP.
https://www.npr.org/2023/09/27/1202042563/second-republican-debate-california-trump-reagan
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@George-K said in 2nd GOP Debate:
Everyone is pissed at Trump for not being there.
DiSantis blames Trump for sparking inflation.
DeSantis is correct.
@LuFins-Dad said in 2nd GOP Debate:
@George-K said in 2nd GOP Debate:
Everyone is pissed at Trump for not being there.
DiSantis blames Trump for sparking inflation.
DeSantis is correct.
Yep. Inflation was coming after two rounds of Covid relief. I don’t care who got elected. Now did Biden make it worse with the third round? Sure. But it would have come anyway.
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I gave up after about an hour. I should be congratulated for lasting that long.
VDH opines:
This second debate descended into the same quagmire of the first debate:
1 The candidate who was polling anywhere from 30-40 percent ahead of the pack was not on the stage and that made it hard for the other candidates to attack their front-running rival in absentia—and almost ensured a nihilistic, cannibalistic fight for second and third place and fourth and fifth place and sixth…
That fragmentation is exactly how Trump outsmarted the 2016 field that in toto outnumbered Trump’s support but never united behind one or two candidates and thus all were picked off one by one. No candidate, oddly, tried to make the case that Trump is facing 91 indictments and he/she would be in a better position to help Trump and reform a corrupt justice system than a tied-down Trump himself.
2 So there are still too many candidates who are not viable contenders, (Christie, Pence, Scott, Burden(sic)) that have little or no chance. Their shouting matches are rhetorical exercises without political consequence—except to dilute further the top rivals to Trump. Whatever one might say about the Democratic cabal of March 2020, when the Left realized that a fragmented field might elect Bernie Sanders with a minority of the primary votes, then almost magically after the South Carolina primary the field began to thin and Biden, the only viable candidate in that pathetically weak field, eliminated Sanders. So if Trump does not join, debates will not matter much until perhaps DeSantis debates Haley on the MAGA agenda vs. doctrinaire Republicanism.
3 The shouting one-on-one psychodramas become irrelevant. Oddly Halley was the most guilty, provoking perceived rivals about trivia in their backgrounds and then engaging in a barking match.
Moderators? Why cannot Univision anchor Ilia Calderón pose one or two questions that transcend her own Latino interests, rather than playing to script with same old/same old predictable loaded questions that ignore all other issues like Ukraine, crime, the economy, inflation, etc.?
Why did Dana Perino intervene in Candy Crowley style to remind the audience that Haley’s husband served aboard? And why do a “Survivor” schtick of candidates voting others off the stage? In general, the moderators could not control the cross-talk and did not ask the candidates what they thought of the front-runner’s positions on the issues.
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Random comments from Stephen Green:
From my colleague Lincoln Brown in the comments: "At this point, I'm just going to lower the lights in my bathroom light some candles, put on some soft music, and climb in the tub with my wife's hair drier."
So far, the winner of tonight's debate is my corner liquor store for reasons that are far too obvious.
Shock collars for when candidates talk over the person whose turn it is
Here's an idea for the next debate: if a candidate goes over time, he or she falls through a trap door. I'd endorse this suggestion except that there needs to be alligators or lava or lava alligators under the trap door. (paraphrased)
