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  • kluursK Offline
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    wrote on last edited by kluurs
    #11

    Tik Tok is very restrictive. Their algorithms are set to capture certain words and zap the video. As a result, people can be having a very PG video - but get zapped. For example, the word "rape" can trigger having a video removed. And as with other social media sites, if someone complains - things can get zapped pretty quickly.

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      @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

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      • 89th8 89th

        @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
        #13

        @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

        @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

        Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

        As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

        I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

        Please love yourself.

        89th8 taiwan_girlT 2 Replies Last reply
        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

          @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

          Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

          As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

          I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

          I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

          Do you mean Michigan?

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

            @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

            Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

            As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

            I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

            @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

            @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

            Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

            As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

            I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

            That is quite interesting. I never really knew how they decided which videos got higher ranked.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

              @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

              @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

              Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

              As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

              I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

              That is quite interesting. I never really knew how they decided which videos got higher ranked.

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              @taiwan_girl said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

              @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

              @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

              Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

              As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

              I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

              That is quite interesting. I never really knew how they decided which videos got higher ranked.

              It's a shitload more complicated than that—those are just a few details. And there's a ton we know about how the algorithms work but much more we don't. It's a mess.

              Please love yourself.

              LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @taiwan_girl said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

                Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

                As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

                I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

                That is quite interesting. I never really knew how they decided which videos got higher ranked.

                It's a shitload more complicated than that—those are just a few details. And there's a ton we know about how the algorithms work but much more we don't. It's a mess.

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                @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                @taiwan_girl said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                @89th said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                @Aqua-Letifer I believe Riley's video uses 2 obviously/common "watch" trends... a person watching another video, and a person eating. Those two things makes people "stop scrolling" to watch the video, I've heard.

                Well the first is basically just a TikTok duet, and the reason that works is software. Duets are built in to the app and when you use more app features, you get a more charitable run with your seed group of followers to determine if it'll be shown to a wider audience. (Insta works the same way.)

                As to the second thing, it's not always eating, it's anything, really. And that helps diminish the engagement cliff at the 1-2 second mark, which most apps consider a bounce. Talk about thing X while doing completely unrelated thing Y like putting on makeup, making coffee, pulling weeds, etc. For some reason we like that kinda shit. Back when we were growing up, infomercials pulled the same trick. You'd catch up with Wilferd Brimley out on the ranch, brushing down his horse or some such and he'd tell you about diabeetus. Old trick, just used in a slightly different context.

                I know way too much about this shit and I kinda wish I didn't. Conversations like these make me want to buy a yurt and move onto BLM land.

                That is quite interesting. I never really knew how they decided which videos got higher ranked.

                It's a shitload more complicated than that—those are just a few details. And there's a ton we know about how the algorithms work but much more we don't. It's a mess.

                I’m pretty sure there’s a multiplier if you actively promote self destructive behavior… Have a good video promoting the importance of patience and dedication? X .05 promotional multiplier. Have a video promoting cutting yourself? X 3000 promotional multiplier!

                The Brad

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Perhaps compare to:

                    Is a step [child/parent] a [child/parent]?
                    Is an adopted [child/parent] a [child/parent]?
                    Is a god [child/parent] a [child/parent]?

                    Is an artificial [limb/appendage] a [limb/appendage]?

                    Are truck nuts nuts?

                    Are chess players athletes?

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                      Ax, is it genetic or a learned behavior? Was there perhaps a traumatic experience or even a physical blow to the head?

                      The Brad

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                        @George-K said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                        But wait, there's more!

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/relationships/pro-trans-activist-mutes-riley-gaines-in-middle-of-a-debate-has-no-idea-he-s-just-disqualified-himself/ar-AA1gX4PK?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W129&cvid=62da7bc87035471680e330d248e3444e&ei=34

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @George-K said in Riley Gaines video removed from TikTok:

                          But wait, there's more!

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/relationships/pro-trans-activist-mutes-riley-gaines-in-middle-of-a-debate-has-no-idea-he-s-just-disqualified-himself/ar-AA1gX4PK?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W129&cvid=62da7bc87035471680e330d248e3444e&ei=34

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                          . @Jolly LOL Good for her (and by her, I mean Riley Gaine.)

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