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  • MikM Mik

    OMG no. See this if you can.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #6

    @Mik said in Hamilton:

    OMG no. See this if you can.

    Hamilton (mostly) gets a pass in my book. I don't like Lin-Manuel Miranda very much, but he's a damn savant and that's undeniable.

    I just mean generally.

    Please love yourself.

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      Mik
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      The rap battle between Hamilton and Jefferson alone is worth the price of admission. There’s just never been anything that encompassed history and culture like this show.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        I suppose I need to see it one of these years

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          I thought we weren’t allowed to watch actors of one race play characters of another? Especially actual historical figures?

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            I thought we weren’t allowed to watch actors of one race play characters of another? Especially actual historical figures?

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Hamilton:

            I thought we weren’t allowed to watch actors of one race play characters of another? Especially actual historical figures?

            Bravo!

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              I really like musicals. Maybe I was born about 30 or 40 years too late, past the "golden" musical age.

              In fact, I just received a couple of days ago a recommendation from Amazon to buy a 5 DVD set of the Golden Age of Musicals for only USD$12!!!

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                I thought we weren’t allowed to watch actors of one race play characters of another? Especially actual historical figures?

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                @LuFins-Dad said in Hamilton:

                I thought we weren’t allowed to watch actors of one race play characters of another? Especially actual historical figures?

                I believe the skin color has been approved for general audiences

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                  Mik is on point. This musical is different. The next generation is firmly in place. Hamilton is brilliant, although I did find The Book of Mormon more entertaining.

                  Hamilton is a must see.

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                  • L Loki

                    Mik is on point. This musical is different. The next generation is firmly in place. Hamilton is brilliant, although I did find The Book of Mormon more entertaining.

                    Hamilton is a must see.

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                    @Loki said in Hamilton:

                    Mik is on point. This musical is different. The next generation is firmly in place. Hamilton is brilliant, although I did find The Book of Mormon more entertaining.

                    Hamilton is a must see.

                    Hamilton is a must-see as soon as Sir Gawain becomes a must-read.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Miranda might be our only hope. Instead of destroying all the statues, we might be able to sneak by just by giving them wider noses.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hamilton-is-the-very-model-of-a-modern-fast-paced-musical/

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            You should see Aida or Turandot. 45 minute intermissions, two apiece.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              @George-K said in Hamilton:

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                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_(musical)

                              Rutgers University professor Lyra Monteiro criticized the show's multi-ethnic casting as obscuring a complete lack of identifiable enslaved or free persons of color as characters in the show.[186] Monteiro identified other commentators, such as Ishmael Reed, who criticized the show for making Hamilton and other historical personages appear more progressive on racial injustice than they really were.[186] According to Reed, "[Hamilton's] reputation has been shored up as an abolitionist and someone who was opposed to slavery," which Reed stated was untrue.

                              Wokeness in the service of a dead white slave-owner, evil

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                                Mik
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                                I'm very happy that Sondheim's (whom I love dearly) Company (which I also love dearly) has a faster song.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  I hate to confess this, but I really don't get the above meme.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    I hate to confess this, but I really don't get the above meme.

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                                    @Catseye3 Hamilton has come under fire. You see, despite being an abolitionist, he did support and befriend others that were slave owners. Even befriended a few, so he must be torn down.

                                    The Brad

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                                      The meme generally is designed to make fun of ideological contradictions of the subject. In this case the subject is woke lefties who both want to get rid of founding fathers statues and love Hamilton the musical as a celebration of immigrants.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        #24

                                        Ah, I get it. Thanks.

                                        Yes, there must be numerous occasions like this, when the guy having to choose is conflicted, particularly when one of the options he's committed to is totally assinine.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Miranda might be our only hope. Instead of destroying all the statues, we might be able to sneak by just by giving them wider noses.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Hamilton:

                                          Miranda might be our only hope. Instead of destroying all the statues, we might be able to sneak by just by giving them wider noses.

                                          Might look asian.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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