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    George K
    wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 12:13 last edited by
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    I mean yoke:

    Tesla has increased the price of its yoke steering wheel to now $1,000, which is a big change from the feature being standard not long ago.

    When Tesla first launched the refreshed Model S and Model X, it featured a controversial new “yoke” butterfly steering wheel.

    Some were worried about the actual shape of the wheel being problematic, while others were concerned about the lack of a drive stalk to choose the drive mode.

    As for the former, we thought that the automaker wouldn’t risk bringing the controversial yoke steering wheel to market without a nonlinear steering curve enabled by a steer-by-wire system – especially knowing that Tesla has been developing a steer-by-wire system.

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    Mrs. George and I were driving yesterday, and I commented that many of the new cars have touchscreens to control things, rather than traditional knobs. She thought it would be a distraction, and I agree.

    Just because you can doesn't mean...

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 12:18 last edited by
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      The screen still requires the driver's attention to be focused to the side rather than ahead.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • M Mik
        6 Sept 2023, 12:18

        The screen still requires the driver's attention to be focused to the side rather than ahead.

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        George K
        wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 12:30 last edited by
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        @Mik said in What a joke:

        The screen still requires the driver's attention to be focused to the side

        Indeed. However, most auto controls are located between the seats anyway.

        Regardless, the IMPORTANT things should be in the driver's field of view, or be easily accessible without looking. If I want to change the temperature in the car, I should be able to do that by dialing a ... dial. Skip a song? Press a button. Change the volume? Turn a dial.

        One of the things I absolutely love in my car is the head-up display. It shows me speed, lane-departure (if activated), driving directions (if activated), distance to the car in front of me and the speed limit. I almost never look down at the dash in front of me.

        2018-audi-a8l-overview-head-up-display-1807761397.jpeg

        By the way, in this picture, it's sitting kind of low. I usually keep mine positioned so it's at the bumper of the car in front of me.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 12:39 last edited by
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          The large screens are a distraction and very expensive to replace. Again, the greenest cars are those that are the most reliable, fairly fuel efficient and easy to fix at a reasonable cost.

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            89th
            wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 12:43 last edited by
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            @George-K cool HUD technology. I test drove a car (Mazda 6?) a few years ago and found it distracting, but also perhaps because it was novel to me. I can see why it's convenient and safe.

            And yeah... touch screens look cool, but not for me. My Honda Accord had a touch/slide for volume which I hated. I could control volume on steering wheel so it was fine, but our Honda CRV (and now Odyssey) have normal volume circular dials, it's so much better. Give me dials and buttons over a touch screen in a car any day!

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            • G George K
              6 Sept 2023, 12:13

              I mean yoke:

              Tesla has increased the price of its yoke steering wheel to now $1,000, which is a big change from the feature being standard not long ago.

              When Tesla first launched the refreshed Model S and Model X, it featured a controversial new “yoke” butterfly steering wheel.

              Some were worried about the actual shape of the wheel being problematic, while others were concerned about the lack of a drive stalk to choose the drive mode.

              As for the former, we thought that the automaker wouldn’t risk bringing the controversial yoke steering wheel to market without a nonlinear steering curve enabled by a steer-by-wire system – especially knowing that Tesla has been developing a steer-by-wire system.

              image.png

              Mrs. George and I were driving yesterday, and I commented that many of the new cars have touchscreens to control things, rather than traditional knobs. She thought it would be a distraction, and I agree.

              Just because you can doesn't mean...

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 14:39 last edited by
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              @George-K said in What a joke:

              Just because you can doesn't mean...

              I agree. With the yolk steering wheel, it just doesn't make sense. I don't always have my hands on the sides of the steering wheel currently.

              (Also agree with the comment about screens being distracting as you have to look down. If you can feel the volume control knob, you can adjust without seeing.)

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