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Physician burnout by specialty area

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Sept 2023, 17:50 last edited by
    #1

    From the AMA.

    For the most stressful medical job in 2022, the highest percentages of burnout occurred among six physician specialties. They are:

    Emergency medicine: 62%.
    Hospital medicine: 59%.
    Family medicine: 58%.
    Pediatrics: 55%.
    Obstetrics and gynecology: 54%.
    Internal medicine: 52%.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-management/physician-health/these-6-physician-specialties-have-most-burnout

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 4 Sept 2023, 17:50 last edited by
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      I’d like to see it adjusted for gender

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 4 Sept 2023, 17:55 last edited by
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        Adjust it for money.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 4 Sept 2023, 18:22 last edited by
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          Obstetrics and gynecology: 54%.

          Probably the stress at having to guess what gender to put on the birth certificate.

          The Brad

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            George K
            wrote on 4 Sept 2023, 19:08 last edited by
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            Interesting, but not really surprising.

            Couple of thoughts. First of all the AMA doesn't represent the majority of physicians (I think only 30% are members), though it might be that non-members participated in the survey. A sample of 13,000 is surely a large sample.

            Another survey had not dissimilar results (9,000 docs), but revealed some interesting things, including @jon-nyc 's question.

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 5 Sept 2023, 23:44 last edited by
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              I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions! 555

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              • T taiwan_girl
                5 Sept 2023, 23:44

                I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions! 555

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                George K
                wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 00:49 last edited by
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                @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                Actually...think about it.

                What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  6 Sept 2023, 00:49

                  @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                  I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                  Actually...think about it.

                  What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 00:57 last edited by
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                  @George-K Oops - I thought pathology was the study of dead people.

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                    6 Sept 2023, 00:57

                    @George-K Oops - I thought pathology was the study of dead people.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 01:04 last edited by
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                    @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                    @George-K Oops - I thought pathology was the study of dead people.

                    It is if you're really bad at it.

                    I was only joking

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                    • G George K
                      6 Sept 2023, 00:49

                      @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                      I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                      Actually...think about it.

                      What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 02:38 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                      I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                      Actually...think about it.

                      What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

                      Worked for a guy we called The Great White. Big man, solid white hair in his mid-thirties, confidence of a bull elephant.

                      There were no statements such as "suggests", "possibly" or "appears to be", anywhere on his reports.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Klaus
                        wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 08:50 last edited by Klaus 9 Jun 2023, 08:51
                        #11

                        Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                        Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                        Are pathologists super nice?

                        Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                        And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

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                        • K Klaus
                          6 Sept 2023, 08:50

                          Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                          Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                          Are pathologists super nice?

                          Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                          And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

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                          George K
                          wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 11:35 last edited by
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                          @Klaus said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                          Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                          Very

                          Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                          Yes. And that's partially because they might know the neuroanatomy as well as neurosurgeons, but they can't do a fucking thing about it.

                          (I loved neurology, and stopped loving it when I realized it's an impotent specialty)

                          Are pathologists super nice?

                          Who knows? They live in the bowels of the hospital and we never see them.

                          Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                          If by Jonathan, you mean a NP who does all the hard work and then prints it out for the doc, yeah, pretty much. But, they do operate, you know, and that's a whole 'other thing.

                          And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

                          No idea what a Texaco Mike is.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            6 Sept 2023, 11:35

                            @Klaus said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                            Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                            Very

                            Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                            Yes. And that's partially because they might know the neuroanatomy as well as neurosurgeons, but they can't do a fucking thing about it.

                            (I loved neurology, and stopped loving it when I realized it's an impotent specialty)

                            Are pathologists super nice?

                            Who knows? They live in the bowels of the hospital and we never see them.

                            Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                            If by Jonathan, you mean a NP who does all the hard work and then prints it out for the doc, yeah, pretty much. But, they do operate, you know, and that's a whole 'other thing.

                            And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

                            No idea what a Texaco Mike is.

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 11:40 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                            No idea what a Texaco Mike is.

                            He's a recurring character in rural medicine.

                            Link to video

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                              George K
                              wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 11:54 last edited by
                              #14

                              Funny, and not that far from reality.

                              One of my teachers (Don) was a guy who was in general practice in rural Illinois. He lived in Walnut, IL. He left that to become an anesthesiologist.

                              Anyhow, Don was always critical of how some surgeons would screw around wasting time.

                              • When I did a C-Section, it never took more than an hour.
                              • I never pinned a hip that way.
                              • I hated doing ear tubes on infants.

                              You get the idea.

                              Don's down-to-earth attitude was one of the inspirations for me to choose the specialty I did. He genuinely had fun.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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