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Physician burnout by specialty area

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    From the AMA.

    For the most stressful medical job in 2022, the highest percentages of burnout occurred among six physician specialties. They are:

    Emergency medicine: 62%.
    Hospital medicine: 59%.
    Family medicine: 58%.
    Pediatrics: 55%.
    Obstetrics and gynecology: 54%.
    Internal medicine: 52%.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-management/physician-health/these-6-physician-specialties-have-most-burnout

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #2

      I’d like to see it adjusted for gender

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        Adjust it for money.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #4

          Obstetrics and gynecology: 54%.

          Probably the stress at having to guess what gender to put on the birth certificate.

          The Brad

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            Interesting, but not really surprising.

            Couple of thoughts. First of all the AMA doesn't represent the majority of physicians (I think only 30% are members), though it might be that non-members participated in the survey. A sample of 13,000 is surely a large sample.

            Another survey had not dissimilar results (9,000 docs), but revealed some interesting things, including @jon-nyc 's question.

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions! 555

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions! 555

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                Actually...think about it.

                What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                  I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                  Actually...think about it.

                  What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

                  taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  @George-K Oops - I thought pathology was the study of dead people.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @George-K Oops - I thought pathology was the study of dead people.

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                    @George-K Oops - I thought pathology was the study of dead people.

                    It is if you're really bad at it.

                    I was only joking

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                    • George KG George K

                      @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                      I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                      Actually...think about it.

                      What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

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                      @George-K said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                      I am not surprised that pathology is one of the lower stress positions!

                      Actually...think about it.

                      What you see on a microscope slide might determine what kind of surgery a person might need - and it has to be done at the time of the surgery.

                      Worked for a guy we called The Great White. Big man, solid white hair in his mid-thirties, confidence of a bull elephant.

                      There were no statements such as "suggests", "possibly" or "appears to be", anywhere on his reports.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Klaus
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                        #11

                        Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                        Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                        Are pathologists super nice?

                        Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                        And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                          Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                          Are pathologists super nice?

                          Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                          And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

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                          @Klaus said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                          Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                          Very

                          Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                          Yes. And that's partially because they might know the neuroanatomy as well as neurosurgeons, but they can't do a fucking thing about it.

                          (I loved neurology, and stopped loving it when I realized it's an impotent specialty)

                          Are pathologists super nice?

                          Who knows? They live in the bowels of the hospital and we never see them.

                          Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                          If by Jonathan, you mean a NP who does all the hard work and then prints it out for the doc, yeah, pretty much. But, they do operate, you know, and that's a whole 'other thing.

                          And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

                          No idea what a Texaco Mike is.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Klaus said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                            Hey @George-K , how accurate is the depiction of speciality areas by Dr. Glaucomflecken?

                            Very

                            Are neurologists arrogant assholes?

                            Yes. And that's partially because they might know the neuroanatomy as well as neurosurgeons, but they can't do a fucking thing about it.

                            (I loved neurology, and stopped loving it when I realized it's an impotent specialty)

                            Are pathologists super nice?

                            Who knows? They live in the bowels of the hospital and we never see them.

                            Do ophthalmologists have a Jonathan who does all their work for them?

                            If by Jonathan, you mean a NP who does all the hard work and then prints it out for the doc, yeah, pretty much. But, they do operate, you know, and that's a whole 'other thing.

                            And, most importantly, do rural doctors need Texaco Mike to get a CT scan?

                            No idea what a Texaco Mike is.

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                            Klaus
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                            @George-K said in Physician burnout by specialty area:

                            No idea what a Texaco Mike is.

                            He's a recurring character in rural medicine.

                            Link to video

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                              George K
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                              Funny, and not that far from reality.

                              One of my teachers (Don) was a guy who was in general practice in rural Illinois. He lived in Walnut, IL. He left that to become an anesthesiologist.

                              Anyhow, Don was always critical of how some surgeons would screw around wasting time.

                              • When I did a C-Section, it never took more than an hour.
                              • I never pinned a hip that way.
                              • I hated doing ear tubes on infants.

                              You get the idea.

                              Don's down-to-earth attitude was one of the inspirations for me to choose the specialty I did. He genuinely had fun.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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