Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/01/us/jake-kleinmahon-doctor-leaves-louisiana-reaj/index.html
Not sure how many pediatric cardiologists are needed per 100,000 population. There are close to 8000 pediatric cardiologists in the USA, only three of them in Louisiana. Now one of these three is leaving because as one who self-identifies as a queer person he does not feel like he can raise his family in Louisiana anymore given the state's new anti-LQBTQ legislation. Maybe he's just a statistics. Maybe Louisiana will get more not-LGBTQ pediatric cardiologists real soon, maybe Louisiana doesn't really need them anyway. :man-shrugging:
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From what I read, there are two laws that he's objecting to.
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The prohibition of "gender-affirming" care for most transgender minors. The law was overturned. Also, the article doesn't define "minor." Is it for 5 year olds, or is it for 17 ½ year olds?
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The so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill that prohibited teachers from discussing sexual orientation or gender identity in class.
I fail to see how #2 is "threatening" to this doc - he cites feeling threatened as one of his reasons for leaving LA. If he wants to discuss sexual orientation with his (adopted) offspring, he's free to do so. Why impose it on the schools. Again, the article is vague. Are teachers talking bout sexual orientation to kids in kindergarten?
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Ax, he was 1 of 3 pediatric transplant cardiologists. That’s a narrow subspecialty under the big umbrella of Pediatric Cardiology.
@blondie said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
Ax, he was 1 of 3 pediatric transplant cardiologists. That’s a narrow subspecialty under the big umbrella of Pediatric Cardiology.
Yeah. Also, it doesn't say that he's a surgeon - he's not. He's the medical doc running the program.
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There are about 500 pediatrics heart transplants that got done in the USA every year, averages out to maybe 10 per state. Louisiana's population is a little bit below national average, so maybe 8 or 9 or 10 pediatric transplants per year. Maybe they don't need that many pediatric transplant specialists. :man-shrugging:
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Ax, true.
But, back to the article , .. too bad it doesn’t pick at the opinion of a doctor with 3 years of a pediatric residency under his belt. I’d want to hear his views concerning puberty blockers, gender altering surgery, hormones, psych treatments/meds, etc. for adolescents.
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Ax, true.
But, back to the article , .. too bad it doesn’t pick at the opinion of a doctor with 3 years of a pediatric residency under his belt. I’d want to hear his views concerning puberty blockers, gender altering surgery, hormones, psych treatments/meds, etc. for adolescents.
@blondie said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
want to hear his views concerning puberty blockers, gender altering surgery, hormones, psych treatments/meds, etc. for adolescents.
Yeah, that probably wasn't covered during his fellowship, and, more to your point, castration, mastectomies, testosterone, etc (I mean, let's call them what they are, right?) weren't covered during his residency 10 years ago.
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@blondie said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
want to hear his views concerning puberty blockers, gender altering surgery, hormones, psych treatments/meds, etc. for adolescents.
Yeah, that probably wasn't covered during his fellowship, and, more to your point, castration, mastectomies, testosterone, etc (I mean, let's call them what they are, right?) weren't covered during his residency 10 years ago.
@George-K said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
@blondie said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
want to hear his views concerning puberty blockers, gender altering surgery, hormones, psych treatments/meds, etc. for adolescents.
Yeah, that probably wasn't covered during his fellowship, and, more to your point, castration, mastectomies, testosterone, etc (I mean, let's call them what they are, right?) weren't covered during his residency 10 years ago.
Want to bet? This shit didn’t come out of nowhere and the wide swing on the subject began about 12 years ago. With his specialty being in pediatrics, my guess is that “gender affirmative care” was most definitely included in the curriculum.
The Brad
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Wait, you said residency… Still, my point stands.
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@George-K said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
@blondie said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
want to hear his views concerning puberty blockers, gender altering surgery, hormones, psych treatments/meds, etc. for adolescents.
Yeah, that probably wasn't covered during his fellowship, and, more to your point, castration, mastectomies, testosterone, etc (I mean, let's call them what they are, right?) weren't covered during his residency 10 years ago.
Want to bet? This shit didn’t come out of nowhere and the wide swing on the subject began about 12 years ago. With his specialty being in pediatrics, my guess is that “gender affirmative care” was most definitely included in the curriculum.
@LuFins-Dad said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
Want to bet? This shit didn’t come out of nowhere and the wide swing on the subject began about 12 years ago.
You might be right.
I did my peds rotation a long, long time ago.
Guess which word was never said?
"Mastectomy."
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Even ignoring the abomination of medical GAC, Social Transition is horrific and unquestionably what needs to be addressed.
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The fact is this doctor (sheltered somewhat within the confines of his transplant specialty) knows how hormone therapy screws with the human body. He’s also young enough to have read something of estrogen, steroids, of long term use, links to disorders, and the mess ups having kids cycle through multiple psych meds over time. He’s in a pediatric hospital where nowadays adolescents are dropping dead of suicide at a higher rate than ever before.
I know a few gay people (medical and non-medical) who state there’s no god damn way they’d be putting that shit (hormones) into their own kids’ bodies … and screw the psych people & social workers because, yeah, in the end, the parents who do buy the medications. -
The fact is this doctor (sheltered somewhat within the confines of his transplant specialty) knows how hormone therapy screws with the human body. He’s also young enough to have read something of estrogen, steroids, of long term use, links to disorders, and the mess ups having kids cycle through multiple psych meds over time. He’s in a pediatric hospital where nowadays adolescents are dropping dead of suicide at a higher rate than ever before.
I know a few gay people (medical and non-medical) who state there’s no god damn way they’d be putting that shit (hormones) into their own kids’ bodies … and screw the psych people & social workers because, yeah, in the end, the parents who do buy the medications.@blondie said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation: meds over time. He’s in a pediatric hospital where nowadays adolescents are dropping dead of suicide at a higher rate than ever
See, there’s one of the most frustrating thing to me. We KNOW that the Dutch “studies” that showed Trans that transitioned are less likely to commit suicide were complete bullshit surveys, and are full of holes to boot. We also know that Social Transition DOES lead to more depression and other problems at significantly higher rates, which then is used as an excuse to medical measures, pointing back to the BS Dutch studies…
At the end of the day, Trans numbers have skyrocketed over the last decade. Teen suicide have skyrocketed over the last decade (and don’t point at COVID, the trend was there well before COVID). I don’t think those two are coincidence.
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Ya know, thinking of all the gay people I know (btw, quite a few), most distance themselves from trans, queer, other rainbow-type issues. No one I know attended the Pride parades this weekend in YYC. As one said, “Why be a target?” (The drag and trans news over the past year drew hate in YYC).
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@LuFins-Dad I think adolescents today are way more triggered by their own anxieties and fears and plummet towards psych maladies way sooner. Jmo, they lack the coping skills, the resilience of GenX’rs and boomers.
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@LuFins-Dad I think adolescents today are way more triggered by their own anxieties and fears and plummet towards psych maladies way sooner. Jmo, they lack the coping skills, the resilience of GenX’rs and boomers.
@blondie said in Pediatric Cardiologist leaves Louisiana over anti-LGBTQ legislation:
@LuFins-Dad I think adolescents today are way more triggered by their own anxieties and fears and plummet towards psych maladies way sooner.
They are also much more exposed to social media.
Contagion.
