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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

    Don't buy the argument. In the general, any of the top GOP candidates would do better than Trump.

    Up against Biden and Kamala? They'd wipe the floor.

    You want the MAGA folks to sit on their hands, come election?

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    @Jolly if the choice were between Biden and a gop candidate, the maga people would go for the gop candidate. I guess some would abstain. They ain’t voting Biden.

    Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

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      @Jolly if the choice were between Biden and a gop candidate, the maga people would go for the gop candidate. I guess some would abstain. They ain’t voting Biden.

      Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

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      @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

      @Jolly if the choice were between Biden and a gop candidate, the maga people would go for the gop candidate. I guess some would abstain. They ain’t voting Biden.

      Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

      1. Trump, especially depending on the economy, will draw more than just MAGA.
      2. If the MAGA folks believe the fix is in, I could easily see them staying home.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

        @Jolly if the choice were between Biden and a gop candidate, the maga people would go for the gop candidate. I guess some would abstain. They ain’t voting Biden.

        Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

        1. Trump, especially depending on the economy, will draw more than just MAGA.
        2. If the MAGA folks believe the fix is in, I could easily see them staying home.
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        @Jolly said in Magical Thinking:

        If the MAGA folks believe the fix is in, I could easily see them staying home.

        It would be highly ironic if all of Trump's endless whining about election fraud lost him the election.

        I was only joking

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          @Jolly if the choice were between Biden and a gop candidate, the maga people would go for the gop candidate. I guess some would abstain. They ain’t voting Biden.

          Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

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          @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

          Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

          This. 👆

          President Trump, at this point in his career, will have a difficult time expanding his vote past the "hard core" supporters of him. I just dont see him capturing a majority of the "middle of the road" voters.

          The US economy is moving in the right direction. If (and it is a big if) the economy trends continue, the days of high inflation will be 2 years in the past, unemployment is low, I think interest rates will have started to drop. People have short memories will help the Democrats.

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            @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

            Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

            This. 👆

            President Trump, at this point in his career, will have a difficult time expanding his vote past the "hard core" supporters of him. I just dont see him capturing a majority of the "middle of the road" voters.

            The US economy is moving in the right direction. If (and it is a big if) the economy trends continue, the days of high inflation will be 2 years in the past, unemployment is low, I think interest rates will have started to drop. People have short memories will help the Democrats.

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            @taiwan_girl said in Magical Thinking:

            The US economy is moving in the right direction

            Probably.

            The question is what will the population see when they vote. All of us can look at the numbers and nod...it might, might, be improving.

            But Joe the Plumber will see groceries that cost a lot more than when the Orange Peril was in office. Gas is more expensive, and forget about buying a house with a 7% mortgage (I know, that's still low, but memories are short).

            It's the economy, stupid. And, as we said yesterday, perception is reality. Graphs and charts aren't.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

              Don't buy the argument. In the general, any of the top GOP candidates would do better than Trump.

              Up against Biden and Kamala? They'd wipe the floor.

              You want the MAGA folks to sit on their hands, come election?

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              @Jolly said in Magical Thinking:

              @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

              Don't buy the argument. In the general, any of the top GOP candidates would do better than Trump.

              Up against Biden and Kamala? They'd wipe the floor.

              You want the MAGA folks to sit on their hands, come election?

              Oh come on, I’m sure Trump would travel the country in support of the nominee that beat him in the primary.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Jolly said in Magical Thinking:

                @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

                Don't buy the argument. In the general, any of the top GOP candidates would do better than Trump.

                Up against Biden and Kamala? They'd wipe the floor.

                You want the MAGA folks to sit on their hands, come election?

                Oh come on, I’m sure Trump would travel the country in support of the nominee that beat him in the primary.

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                @jon-nyc said in Magical Thinking:

                Oh come on, I’m sure Trump would travel the country in support of the nominee that beat him in the primary.

                If I'm honest, my main reason for wanting Trump to lose in the primary is how hilarious the spectacle of him attacking the Republican Party will be.

                I know it's childish and petty.

                I was only joking

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                  @Jolly if the choice were between Biden and a gop candidate, the maga people would go for the gop candidate. I guess some would abstain. They ain’t voting Biden.

                  Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

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                  @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

                  @Jolly if the choice were between Biden and a gop candidate, the maga people would go for the gop candidate. I guess some would abstain. They ain’t voting Biden.

                  Trump is just gonna get maga. Maga keeps losing in generals. Maybe it would be different this time around. I don’t see why it would though.

                  72 million votes last election. That’s an unbelievable and almost unprecedented jump in the number of votes for a candidate. 20% more than Romney…

                  Of course, otoh the reason it’s only “almost” unprecedented is because there was an even larger increase in the number of anti-Trump voters….Nearly 25%…

                  The Brad

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                    wrote on last edited by
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                    Voters? Or ballots?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Jolly said in Magical Thinking:

                      @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

                      Don't buy the argument. In the general, any of the top GOP candidates would do better than Trump.

                      Up against Biden and Kamala? They'd wipe the floor.

                      You want the MAGA folks to sit on their hands, come election?

                      Oh come on, I’m sure Trump would travel the country in support of the nominee that beat him in the primary.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Magical Thinking:

                      @Jolly said in Magical Thinking:

                      @xenon said in Magical Thinking:

                      Don't buy the argument. In the general, any of the top GOP candidates would do better than Trump.

                      Up against Biden and Kamala? They'd wipe the floor.

                      You want the MAGA folks to sit on their hands, come election?

                      Oh come on, I’m sure Trump would travel the country in support of the nominee that beat him in the primary.

                      Not exactly true to form but would indeed be sporting of him.

                      Have reservations whether it could come to pass.

                      Elbows up!

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                        BTW, I think the vote totals this year will be less.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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