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  • 89th8 Offline
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    #8

    Why would this be political? If Trump ran again he would lose by an even bigger margin landslide than he did in 2020. The dems should WANT Trump to be at the top of the GOP ticket for 2024.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Trump lost the Presidency by about 100,000 votes. In a rigged election.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Look at the electoral map now. Biden has this locked up against a Trump challenger. And trust me, I don't want Biden.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          I still think elections revolve around kitchen table issues, mostly economic ones.

          IMO, the major issues this election cycle:

          1. The economy
          2. The economy
          3. Education
          4. Abortion

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            I still think elections revolve around kitchen table issues, mostly economic ones.

            IMO, the major issues this election cycle:

            1. The economy
            2. The economy
            3. Education
            4. Abortion
            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @Jolly said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

            I still think elections revolve around kitchen table issues, mostly economic ones.

            IMO, the major issues this election cycle:

            1. The economy
            2. The economy
            3. Education
            4. Abortion

            Do you think that abortion is a "kitchen table" issue? Perhaps in the sense that it drives those that sit around the table to support one candidate vs another, but it doesn't affect their lives in the manner of the first three.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #13

              Abortion is an issue for people who feel really, really strongly about abortion, in whichever direction.

              But how they vote is pretty much a given anyway.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                Abortion is an issue for people who feel really, really strongly about abortion, in whichever direction.

                But how they vote is pretty much a given anyway.

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                George K
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                Abortion is an issue for people who feel really, really strongly about abortion, in whichever direction.

                I would guess that's actually a pretty small number.

                But how they vote is pretty much a given anyway.

                Yup. That was kind of my point.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  I’ve heard it said that before Dobbs, abortion drove turnout on the GOP side and after Dobbs it’s the opposite.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    A cynic might say that the best way of ensuring a good voter turnout is to keep promising something that people want, but then find ways to be thwarted so that you can continue to promise it.

                    Once it's put in place, the one-issue voters stop bothering to vote.

                    I was only joking

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                      #17

                      It’s notable that all the abortion referenda that have come out since Dobbs were victories for the pro-choice side. All of them. Even in red states.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                        Abortion is an issue for people who feel really, really strongly about abortion, in whichever direction.

                        I would guess that's actually a pretty small number.

                        But how they vote is pretty much a given anyway.

                        Yup. That was kind of my point.

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                        @George-K said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                        Abortion is an issue for people who feel really, really strongly about abortion, in whichever direction.

                        I would guess that's actually a pretty small number.

                        But how they vote is pretty much a given anyway.

                        Yup. That was kind of my point.

                        While the Dems are pretty much abortion until birth, and some would kill the baby after it's born, some Republicans are offering a compromise number. Trump has floated a trial balloon of 15 weeks.
                        I've heard the same figure mused about by a couple of other GOP politicians.

                        Personally, I think SCOTUS got it right. It's a state issue. The national GOP has done a lousy job of explaining Dobbs to the voters. OTOH, the MSM has certainly vilified them to no end.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Jolly said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                          I still think elections revolve around kitchen table issues, mostly economic ones.

                          IMO, the major issues this election cycle:

                          1. The economy
                          2. The economy
                          3. Education
                          4. Abortion

                          Do you think that abortion is a "kitchen table" issue? Perhaps in the sense that it drives those that sit around the table to support one candidate vs another, but it doesn't affect their lives in the manner of the first three.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @George-K said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                          Do you think that abortion is a "kitchen table" issue?

                          "On the kitchen table, with a coat hanger."

                          One of the murder scenarios in the updated 21st Century version of "Clue: Never Stop Talking About Abortion edition".

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                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            A cynic might say that the best way of ensuring a good voter turnout is to keep promising something that people want, but then find ways to be thwarted so that you can continue to promise it.

                            Once it's put in place, the one-issue voters stop bothering to vote.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                            A cynic might say that the best way of ensuring a good voter turnout is to keep promising something that people want, but then find ways to be thwarted so that you can continue to promise it.

                            Once it's put in place, the one-issue voters stop bothering to vote.

                            This is the beauty of the unachievable goal of total group equality, or the total eradication of racist things caught on video.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                              A cynic might say that the best way of ensuring a good voter turnout is to keep promising something that people want, but then find ways to be thwarted so that you can continue to promise it.

                              Once it's put in place, the one-issue voters stop bothering to vote.

                              This is the beauty of the unachievable goal of total group equality, or the total eradication of racist things caught on video.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Horace said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                              This is the beauty of the unachievable goal of total group equality, or the total eradication of racist things caught on video.

                              Or making abortion illegal. Or bringing back Victorian values. Or making America Great Again.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Horace said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                This is the beauty of the unachievable goal of total group equality, or the total eradication of racist things caught on video.

                                Or making abortion illegal. Or bringing back Victorian values. Or making America Great Again.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                @Horace said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                This is the beauty of the unachievable goal of total group equality, or the total eradication of racist things caught on video.

                                Or making abortion illegal. Or bringing back Victorian values. Or making America Great Again.

                                Sorry didn’t mean to activate the both sides are equal response. I know it’s early for that and you may not have stretched yet.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Anybody but me think that the student loan forgiveness crap was the greatest political theater of the last three years?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Biden knew it was illegal.
                                    Pelosi knew it was illegal.
                                    Harris (I think) knew it was illegal.
                                    Schumer knew it was illegal.

                                    And they pushed it.

                                    If only politicians could be indicted for lying.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                      @Horace said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                      This is the beauty of the unachievable goal of total group equality, or the total eradication of racist things caught on video.

                                      Or making abortion illegal. Or bringing back Victorian values. Or making America Great Again.

                                      Sorry didn’t mean to activate the both sides are equal response. I know it’s early for that and you may not have stretched yet.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Horace said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                      Sorry didn’t mean to activate the both sides are equal response.

                                      It's an equal and opposite reaction to "Getting back to the race narrative and how much the Democrats suck..."

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Horace said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                        Sorry didn’t mean to activate the both sides are equal response.

                                        It's an equal and opposite reaction to "Getting back to the race narrative and how much the Democrats suck..."

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                                        Horace
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                        @Horace said in Tell me it’s political bullshit without specifically stating it’s political bullshit:

                                        Sorry didn’t mean to activate the both sides are equal response.

                                        It's an equal and opposite reaction to "Getting back to the race narrative

                                        It's the foundation of their messaging platform, for multiple generations now.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          These days the GOP fears the abortion issue so bad that they dread any election that has abortion as an issue on the ballot.

                                          Ohio's recent Aug.8 "Issue 1" special election shows you to what great lengths the GOP is willing to go to not have abortion appear as an issue on the ballot.

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