What the actual fuck
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@Horace said in What the actual fuck:
More dancing around words and language is not what we need. "Black folk" is fine.
Eh . . . it's a cultural colloquialism, you know? And it's a small thing, wouldn't take much to fix.
@Catseye3 said in What the actual fuck:
@Horace said in What the actual fuck:
More dancing around words and language is not what we need. "Black folk" is fine.
Eh . . . it's a cultural colloquialism, you know? And it's a small thing, wouldn't take much to fix.
I think taking a common word out of acceptable usage because one person thinks it sounds funny is pretty drastic. In fact it would be a completely absurd idea except for the drastic implication that the word is racist. A google search turns up no indication that anybody but you thinks ill of the term.
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Agree with Xenon. When you're born into a culture that, whether it is disadvantaged or not, is perceived to be disadvantaged by a lot of people (black and white), you need an extra helping of situational awareness in all aspects of your life -- and enough self reliance and moxie to act on what you discover. Hard enough for most people regardless of race, but especially so for black people, fair or not.
Not picking on Xenon particularly, but maybe we can start by ceasing to refer to them as "black folk". Whenever I hear that phrase, I flinch, picturing a group of people clog dancing to "Shortnin' Bread".
@Catseye3 said in What the actual fuck:
Agree with Xenon. When you're born into a culture that, whether it is disadvantaged or not, is perceived to be disadvantaged by a lot of people (black and white), you need an extra helping of situational awareness in all aspects of your life -- and enough self reliance and moxie to act on what you discover. Hard enough for most people regardless of race, but especially so for black people, fair or not.
Not picking on Xenon particularly, but maybe we can start by ceasing to refer to them as "black folk". Whenever I hear that phrase, I flinch, picturing a group of people clog dancing to "Shortnin' Bread".
If that's what you see in your mind's eye when you hear the words "black folk" then you're the one with racial issues, not the term. What do you see when you hear black people say "white folk"? How about when you hear "Indians"? I'm not ashamed of being Indian, nor am I ashamed of being white. Black people are not and should not be ashamed of being black. So if someone wants to address an issue that exclusively pertains to black folk, how would you prefer we make that distinction?
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@Catseye3 said in What the actual fuck:
Agree with Xenon. When you're born into a culture that, whether it is disadvantaged or not, is perceived to be disadvantaged by a lot of people (black and white), you need an extra helping of situational awareness in all aspects of your life -- and enough self reliance and moxie to act on what you discover. Hard enough for most people regardless of race, but especially so for black people, fair or not.
Not picking on Xenon particularly, but maybe we can start by ceasing to refer to them as "black folk". Whenever I hear that phrase, I flinch, picturing a group of people clog dancing to "Shortnin' Bread".
If that's what you see in your mind's eye when you hear the words "black folk" then you're the one with racial issues, not the term. What do you see when you hear black people say "white folk"? How about when you hear "Indians"? I'm not ashamed of being Indian, nor am I ashamed of being white. Black people are not and should not be ashamed of being black. So if someone wants to address an issue that exclusively pertains to black folk, how would you prefer we make that distinction?
@Larry said in What the actual fuck:
So if someone wants to address an issue that exclusively pertains to black folk, how would you prefer we make that distinction?
I don't have any idea how to answer this extreme misinterpretation of what I wrote.
If I'm wrong, if it turns out it is not considered pejorative,, then fine. I take it back.
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I have a solution. Instead of saying "white folk" or "black folk", if their race is pertinent to the issue being discussed we can refer to each group by their race, and say "caucasian" or "negroid". Would that be better?
@Larry Jesus, calm down. I made mention of the clog dancing thing to illustrate that I feared blacks would themselves consider they were being thought of that way whenever the phrase was directed at them, i.e., as deprecating. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong -- and I'm glad of it.
