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  • CopperC Offline
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    Small world, I bought an apple pie last week at that farmer's market in Currituck, NC where Oliver Anthony is reading the bible and singing.

    We stop at that market every year to get pies and vegetables on our way the the OBX for a week on the beach. They usually have a live band.

    The crowd is always large on summer weekends. This is the only road into the OBX from the north. The crowd is big enough that they need a couple people directing traffic at the portable toilets.

    You can just see the bridge to OBX in the distance. I was headed in the other direction when this was taken, 2 days ago.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

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      @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

      Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

      When I first came across it, I wasn't sure whether it was parody, but after a minute or so I got that it was a serious song. After recalibrating to appreciate it as music, I thought it was catchy enough and I've listened to it a couple times.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Oliver Anthony is from Farmville, VA. Is that a small town?

        Here is a picture I took of the Farmville airport 15 years ago.

        Yes, that is an airport right about in the middle there. No office, no hangars, just some cement and a few parking spaces, definitely rural.

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        • CopperC Copper

          Oliver Anthony is from Farmville, VA. Is that a small town?

          Here is a picture I took of the Farmville airport 15 years ago.

          Yes, that is an airport right about in the middle there. No office, no hangars, just some cement and a few parking spaces, definitely rural.

          07f997a7-c705-437d-85ac-a59d291e9d7c-image.png

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          @Copper said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

          Oliver Anthony is from Farmville, VA. Is that a small town?

          Here is a picture I took of the Farmville airport 15 years ago.

          Yes, that is an airport right about in the middle there. No office, no hangars, just some cement and a few parking spaces, definitely rural.

          07f997a7-c705-437d-85ac-a59d291e9d7c-image.png

          They've only got one university, so I suppose it's "rural" by Boston standards.

          Please love yourself.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            That was a good zingAH

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            • 89th8 89th

              Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

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              @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

              Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

              Born with a silver foot in your mouth?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • 89th8 89th

                Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

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                @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

                I'm not the biggest fan of the details, either, but I think a better question would be, "why would a guy who kinda sucks at performance get shared around so quickly?"

                He isn't making the rounds because of his use of vibrato.

                Everything is anthropology.

                Please love yourself.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #13

                  I don’t know enough country to know how common this is, but 5 minutes ago this would have had a left-leaning valence, not right.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I don’t know enough country to know how common this is, but 5 minutes ago this would have had a left-leaning valence, not right.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    @jon-nyc said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                    I don’t know enough country to know how common this is, but 5 minutes ago this would have had a left-leaning valence, not right.

                    I don't think that's true. If Merle Haggard, Hank Jr, Jerry Reed, Dolly Parton, etc. are any indication, you can't listen to country music without hearing about working class struggles. But their music has always been appreciated much more heavily by the right than the left.

                    In other words, the style of music sets the politics, not the message.

                    As a contrast, rap music is (1) also very "masculine" in its elements (celebrates community pride and traditions, is boastful, etc), (2) is all about working class struggles and (3) is listened to almost exclusively by a left-leaning audience.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Yep.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @jon-nyc said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                        I don’t know enough country to know how common this is, but 5 minutes ago this would have had a left-leaning valence, not right.

                        I don't think that's true. If Merle Haggard, Hank Jr, Jerry Reed, Dolly Parton, etc. are any indication, you can't listen to country music without hearing about working class struggles. But their music has always been appreciated much more heavily by the right than the left.

                        In other words, the style of music sets the politics, not the message.

                        As a contrast, rap music is (1) also very "masculine" in its elements (celebrates community pride and traditions, is boastful, etc), (2) is all about working class struggles and (3) is listened to almost exclusively by a left-leaning audience.

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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                        @jon-nyc said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                        I don’t know enough country to know how common this is, but 5 minutes ago this would have had a left-leaning valence, not right.

                        I don't think that's true. If Merle Haggard, Hank Jr, Jerry Reed, Dolly Parton, etc. are any indication, you can't listen to country music without hearing about working class struggles. But their music has always been appreciated much more heavily by the right than the left.

                        In other words, the style of music sets the politics, not the message.

                        As a contrast, rap music is (1) also very "masculine" in its elements (celebrates community pride and traditions, is boastful, etc), (2) is all about working class struggles and (3) is listened to almost exclusively by a left-leaning audience.

                        "Black culture" has always been a carve-out of the leftist agenda, and the fit has never been an easy one. There's a great deal of looking the other way, and not thinking or talking about certain things.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                          Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

                          Born with a silver foot in your mouth?

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                          @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                          @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                          Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

                          Born with a silver foot in your mouth?

                          I was born in the south, my parents didn't have money, and I'm not sure anything I said was a malapropism, so.... maybe I need to get my ears checked?

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                            Meh.

                            I’ll stay with Iris Dement’s Wasteland of the Free:

                            Link to video

                            Elbows up!

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                              By the way, does he dye his beard? Or is that color mismatch something that happens to gingers?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                By the way, does he dye his beard? Or is that color mismatch something that happens to gingers?

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                                @jon-nyc said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                By the way, does he dye his beard? Or is that color mismatch something that happens to gingers?

                                Only when they’ve successfully acquired a soul.

                                The Brad

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                                  It could be prematurely grey like a lot of beards.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                    @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                    Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

                                    Born with a silver foot in your mouth?

                                    I was born in the south, my parents didn't have money, and I'm not sure anything I said was a malapropism, so.... maybe I need to get my ears checked?

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                                    @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                    @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                    @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                    Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

                                    Born with a silver foot in your mouth?

                                    I was born in the south, my parents didn't have money, and I'm not sure anything I said was a malapropism, so.... maybe I need to get my ears checked?

                                    You're talking like somebody that's either nouveau rich or the manor born.

                                    Working people will complain about their wages when times are tough. When there's more month than money. When they see people seemingly doing nothing, but making plenty of money and dictating actions and policy to those not as smart or are not as "good" as the rich people are.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

                                      Born with a silver foot in your mouth?

                                      I was born in the south, my parents didn't have money, and I'm not sure anything I said was a malapropism, so.... maybe I need to get my ears checked?

                                      You're talking like somebody that's either nouveau rich or the manor born.

                                      Working people will complain about their wages when times are tough. When there's more month than money. When they see people seemingly doing nothing, but making plenty of money and dictating actions and policy to those not as smart or are not as "good" as the rich people are.

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                                      @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      Am I the only one that thought his singing was a little annoying and yell-y? It's also whiny lyrics...like, live your life and stop worrying about politics or the wealth of others. I actually really enjoy folk music but I don't think I could listen to that a second time. Instead, let's listen to good music like: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/231350

                                      Born with a silver foot in your mouth?

                                      I was born in the south, my parents didn't have money, and I'm not sure anything I said was a malapropism, so.... maybe I need to get my ears checked?

                                      You're talking like somebody that's either nouveau rich or the manor born.

                                      Working people will complain about their wages when times are tough. When there's more month than money. When they see people seemingly doing nothing, but making plenty of money and dictating actions and policy to those not as smart or are not as "good" as the rich people are.

                                      I think I'm talking like someone who has absorbed the wit and wording of TNCR for almost 20 years. Sincerely, my time on the various coffee room iterations is one I think would serve many people well. How to debate, respect, new words, learn, dig in...

                                      I guess you could say, which ironically is a term I had to google, that I'm "nouveau rich" (or at least, compared to my dad who's parents abandoned him at 10, only had ketchup to eat at home during most nights in middle and high school, and in college worked [some weeks] over 90 hours to pay his way through... he now has a Masters and Doctorate, although the 2008 financial crisis wiped him out, but that's another story). Anyway, my career path in IT has been helpful with getting good wages, but even back when I asked a friend in 2005 for a few bucks because my credit card was due and I had literally zero in the bank, I had the same perspective... that lyrics like these are whiny and folks should stop caring what others thing, what politicians say, and what happens in the world that doesn't directly impact their life:

                                      Livin' in the new world / With an old soul / These rich men north of Richmond / Lord knows they all just wanna have total control / Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do / And they don't think you know, but I know that you do

                                      Ok, who gives a shit about what politicians think?

                                      'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end / 'Cause of rich men north of Richmond.

                                      Not really. The dollar is still strong and isn't taxed to no end, especially if you're referring to those with lower income. It feels good in a lyric, but is demonstrably untrue.

                                      I wish politicians would look out for miners / And not just minors on an island somewhere / Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat / And the obese milkin' welfare.

                                      Agree with him there.

                                      Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds / Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds / Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground / 'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down.

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                                        Holy shit man just stop before you dig to China.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Don't you mean Boston?

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