Snow White and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As
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@George-K said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
Could it be even worse than we thought?
Of course.
I like how she smugly smiles that "it's no longer 1937" as she lands a knock out blow to the question. What an idiot. How much does she know from 1937... she was born in 2001, after the first Lord of the Rings came out.
I also chuckle that she's not "saved by a prince" but then goes to say she's "inspired to be a leader by [a man]" her dad".
Reminds me of the joke where a woman says she's not going to take her husband's last name in marriage, which just means she's going to keep her dad's last name.
It is remarkable Disney has not learned their Go Woke Go Broke lesson. Stop focusing on skin color. Follow MLK's dream.
@89th said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
Stop focusing on skin color. Follow MLK's dream.
Well it's "Snow White," if you want to adhere to the story as published by the Grimm brothers, her skin color is a big deal.
https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm053.html
Once upon a time in midwinter, when the snowflakes were falling like feathers from heaven, a queen sat sewing at her window, which had a frame of black ebony wood. As she sewed she looked up at the snow and pricked her finger with her needle. Three drops of blood fell into the snow. The red on the white looked so beautiful that she thought to herself, "If only I had a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as the wood in this frame."
Soon afterward she had a little daughter who was as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as ebony wood, and therefore they called her Little Snow-White. ...She can be only white, red, and/or black. No brown or yellow.
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@89th said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
Stop focusing on skin color. Follow MLK's dream.
Well it's "Snow White," if you want to adhere to the story as published by the Grimm brothers, her skin color is a big deal.
https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm053.html
Once upon a time in midwinter, when the snowflakes were falling like feathers from heaven, a queen sat sewing at her window, which had a frame of black ebony wood. As she sewed she looked up at the snow and pricked her finger with her needle. Three drops of blood fell into the snow. The red on the white looked so beautiful that she thought to herself, "If only I had a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as the wood in this frame."
Soon afterward she had a little daughter who was as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as ebony wood, and therefore they called her Little Snow-White. ...She can be only white, red, and/or black. No brown or yellow.
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That tweet is a total mischaracterization of that interview. Surely intentional.
The problem with all these accounts that grift off of the other tribe's stupidity is you get a situation where the demand for such stupidity exceeds the supply and they do shit like this.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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That tweet is a total mischaracterization of that interview. Surely intentional.
The problem with all these accounts that grift off of the other tribe's stupidity is you get a situation where the demand for such stupidity exceeds the supply and they do shit like this.
@jon-nyc said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
That tweet is a total mischaracterization of that interview. Surely intentional.
People like 'End Wokeness' complain about the left being humourless, and then they post that. She's clearly kidding around.
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That tweet is a total mischaracterization of that interview. Surely intentional.
The problem with all these accounts that grift off of the other tribe's stupidity is you get a situation where the demand for such stupidity exceeds the supply and they do shit like this.
@jon-nyc said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
That tweet is a total mischaracterization of that interview. Surely intentional.
The problem with all these accounts that grift off of the other tribe's stupidity is you get a situation where the demand for such stupidity exceeds the supply and they do shit like this.
So she didn’t refer to the Prince as a stalker?
The Brad
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She said in the 1937 version the prince stalked her. Not this one.
And the prince could be cut out was not in any way a suggestion, it was a flip way of saying “who knows what the editors will do with the final cut”, entirely consistent with what she spent most of the interview talking about, which is the relationship between snow white and the prince in the movie and the uncertainty about how it’ll look to the audience once the director is done.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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@jon-nyc said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
That tweet is a total mischaracterization of that interview. Surely intentional.
The problem with all these accounts that grift off of the other tribe's stupidity is you get a situation where the demand for such stupidity exceeds the supply and they do shit like this.
So she didn’t refer to the Prince as a stalker?
@LuFins-Dad said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@jon-nyc said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
That tweet is a total mischaracterization of that interview. Surely intentional.
The problem with all these accounts that grift off of the other tribe's stupidity is you get a situation where the demand for such stupidity exceeds the supply and they do shit like this.
So she didn’t refer to the Prince as a stalker?
Did you watch the interview? She was clearly kidding around. The portrayal by the humourless dweeb on Twitter is ridiculous.
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She said in the 1937 version the prince stalked her. Not this one.
And the prince could be cut out was not in any way a suggestion, it was a flip way of saying “who knows what the editors will do with the final cut”, entirely consistent with what she spent most of the interview talking about, which is the relationship between snow white and the prince in the movie and the uncertainty about how it’ll look to the audience once the director is done.
@jon-nyc said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
She said in the 1937 version the prince stalked her. Not this one.
Right. This is not the first interview she has given. Not by far. And in each and every interview she repeatedly casts aspersions on the original source material. This is a repeated pattern of behavior and not a one off. If she doesn’t like the original Snow White story, that’s fine. Don’t do the project.
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@jon-nyc said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
She said in the 1937 version the prince stalked her. Not this one.
Right. This is not the first interview she has given. Not by far. And in each and every interview she repeatedly casts aspersions on the original source material. This is a repeated pattern of behavior and not a one off. If she doesn’t like the original Snow White story, that’s fine. Don’t do the project.
@LuFins-Dad said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
If she doesn’t like the original Snow White story, that’s fine. Don’t do the project.
It's an adaptation of a folk tale, not the Holy Bible. You are allowed to change it. It's not as if Disney has a great track of honouring the original text of the stories they plunder, or indeed that the 1937 is the original source material.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
If she doesn’t like the original Snow White story, that’s fine. Don’t do the project.
It's an adaptation of a folk tale, not the Holy Bible. You are allowed to change it. It's not as if Disney has a great track of honouring the original text of the stories they plunder, or indeed that the 1937 is the original source material.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@LuFins-Dad said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
If she doesn’t like the original Snow White story, that’s fine. Don’t do the project.
It's an adaptation of a folk tale, not the Holy Bible. You are allowed to change it.
No, you're actually not. Not if you expect anyone out there to like any of it.
You can change things, sure, but it better be changes in service to the spirit of the story and not some faux inclusivity attempt or... well you get responses like this.
It's not as if Disney has a great track of honouring the original text of the stories they plunder, or indeed that the 1937 is the original source material.
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
Please love yourself.
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This is nearly as idiotic as Mattel saying “hey! Why don’t we make a movie that shows just how shallow and demeaning Barbie and the related products are! Wouldn’t that be great?”
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This is nearly as idiotic as Mattel saying “hey! Why don’t we make a movie that shows just how shallow and demeaning Barbie and the related products are! Wouldn’t that be great?”
@LuFins-Dad said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
This is nearly as idiotic as Mattel saying “hey! Why don’t we make a movie that shows just how shallow and demeaning Barbie and the related products are! Wouldn’t that be great?”
Have you watched the Barbie (2023) movie?
It’s over $1 Billion idiotic by now.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@LuFins-Dad said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
If she doesn’t like the original Snow White story, that’s fine. Don’t do the project.
It's an adaptation of a folk tale, not the Holy Bible. You are allowed to change it.
No, you're actually not. Not if you expect anyone out there to like any of it.
You can change things, sure, but it better be changes in service to the spirit of the story and not some faux inclusivity attempt or... well you get responses like this.
It's not as if Disney has a great track of honouring the original text of the stories they plunder, or indeed that the 1937 is the original source material.
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. …
How do you measure success? By box office take?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. …
How do you measure success? By box office take?
@Axtremus said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. …
How do you measure success? By box office take?
Try again. Stories are older than capitalism.
Please love yourself.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@LuFins-Dad said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
If she doesn’t like the original Snow White story, that’s fine. Don’t do the project.
It's an adaptation of a folk tale, not the Holy Bible. You are allowed to change it.
No, you're actually not. Not if you expect anyone out there to like any of it.
You can change things, sure, but it better be changes in service to the spirit of the story and not some faux inclusivity attempt or... well you get responses like this.
It's not as if Disney has a great track of honouring the original text of the stories they plunder, or indeed that the 1937 is the original source material.
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
So you're okay with their virtue-signaling remakes but not the originals that put Disney on the map?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
So you're okay with their virtue-signaling remakes but not the originals that put Disney on the map?
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
So you're okay with their virtue-signaling remakes but not the originals that put Disney on the map?
I'm not really ok with any of it, TBH. I've never liked Disney very much as an organization. They've always been as preachy as shit, it's just they're now doing it in a different way which annoys a different segment.
However, I didn't think the characterization of the interview with the actress was accurate.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
So you're okay with their virtue-signaling remakes but not the originals that put Disney on the map?
I'm not really ok with any of it, TBH. I've never liked Disney very much as an organization. They've always been as preachy as shit, it's just they're now doing it in a different way which annoys a different segment.
However, I didn't think the characterization of the interview with the actress was accurate.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
So you're okay with their virtue-signaling remakes but not the originals that put Disney on the map?
I'm not really ok with any of it, TBH. I've never liked Disney very much as an organization. They've always been as preachy as shit, it's just they're now doing it in a different way which annoys a different segment.
Do you hate Miyazaki stuff, too, then?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
So you're okay with their virtue-signaling remakes but not the originals that put Disney on the map?
I'm not really ok with any of it, TBH. I've never liked Disney very much as an organization. They've always been as preachy as shit, it's just they're now doing it in a different way which annoys a different segment.
Do you hate Miyazaki stuff, too, then?
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Show White Privilege and the Seven … Whatever They Identify As:
No, but they did understand the stories they adapted, which is what led to their success. Modern Disney—and the people who like this stuff or shrug it off as no big deal—do not, and so when these abominations flop it's of course because the people who didn't like it are racist or whatever. Not because the spirit of the story wasn't honored. Gotta be racism.
I actually found a lot of the early Disney adaptations really vomit-inducingly twee. Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen were very different in tone.
But that's just me. A lot of people seemed to like their stomach turning saccharin quality.
So you're okay with their virtue-signaling remakes but not the originals that put Disney on the map?
I'm not really ok with any of it, TBH. I've never liked Disney very much as an organization. They've always been as preachy as shit, it's just they're now doing it in a different way which annoys a different segment.
Do you hate Miyazaki stuff, too, then?
Never watched any.
Obviously, I've enjoyed some Disney - a lot of the Pixar stuff was great, but it wasn't really Disney in the same way. I'm sure there are others, and if you watch something like Pinocchio while ignoring some of the subtext, it's fine. But all those cutesy little birdies are revolting. And don't get me started on that freaking Gopher.
There's also levels of wokeness. Insisting on using Asian or black actors to portray Asian or black characters isn't really that horrendous an idea. I don't need every third character to be gay or anything, but also it doesn't mean there shouldn't be any gayness whatsoever. It's a fact of modern life.
I tell you what I did enjoy recently - Arcane. I'm sure some people think it's a bit woke, but I thought it was great. It's pretty dark.
I was only joking
