Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 00:02 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 01:04 last edited by
Most disturbing.
Multiple warnings of potential trouble. Talk of shutting down the capital (city). 19 known terrorists known to be converging on the building. And this cop was told nothing about it.
Denial of National Guard by Sergeants at arms of House and Senate because the "optics" would be bad.
This guy has call logs, times of asking for support, and other documentation.
Also, he comments on the Antifa/BLM attacks on the White House - he claims that all charges were dropped.
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 02:31 last edited by
The intentional lack of security, and the 4D chess outcome of that lack. The Democrats are going to be ginning up the base for generations, because America didn't have security there to turn the riot into a non-event.
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 04:02 last edited by
Pelosi.
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 06:14 last edited by
Why didn’t the President know?
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 12:32 last edited by
The President offered the National Guard.
What more do you want?
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 12:34 last edited by
@Jolly said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
The President offered the National Guard.
What more do you want?
"Fact Checkers" claim there is no record of him making such a request before Jan 6. I don't know if he did the day off, however.
But the fact that the Chief of Capitol Police was rebuffed in his request is damning.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 13:47 last edited by
A nice summary of what Sund disclosed. Details of each point at the link.
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DHS, FBI Hid Intelligence From Capitol Police
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Milley Wanted to Shut Down D.C. Ahead Of Jan. 6
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Congressional Leadership Denied National Guard Requests Before and During Riot
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Secret Service Turned Over One Text to J6 Committee
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New Jersey State Police Arrived to Help Before National Guard
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Sund Wasn’t Told About Federal Informants Present at the Capitol
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Lawmakers Didn’t Want Sund to Testify
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 14:07 last edited by
Of the many symptoms of TDS, one is that sufferers will be unable to think clearly about the fact that, with appropriate security, January 6 would have been a non-event, useless for political messaging going forward.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 14:55 last edited by Jolly 8 Dec 2023, 14:55
The problem with much of this post-mortem, is that the American public will simply not pay attention to a more nuanced Truth. The Dems got there "the fustest with the mostest" and controlled the message totally by broadcasting a dog & pony show, orchestrated by a partisan Dem committee abetted by two trump-hating GOP hacks (neither of which are now in office and will probably never see another elected office in their lifetimes).
The American public's span of attention is rather short. These new revelations, while damning to anybody that actually studies politics, will roll like urine off a duck's back (the American public) and the duck won't even know it was pissed on.
Especially that segment of the population easily amused by bread and circuses.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 17:42 last edited by
But that's the beauty of it, Jolly.
There is/was a Master Of the Game, and you summed it up in one word: "Pelosi."
She will play the game at the expense of the country, with that sick smile on her face. She would not nuke the country to get her way (if possible), but she would be happy to have people kill each other with the same outcome. I think she loves to see those beneath her suffer.
As I think about it some more, I don't think I like her. -
wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 18:16 last edited by
I think the Pelosi may be the most recent and possibly the best argument I could make, to enact laws to keep Congress Critters from enriching themselves at the public's expense.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 19:15 last edited by
Wow, you guys really hammered her.
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Of the many symptoms of TDS, one is that sufferers will be unable to think clearly about the fact that, with appropriate security, January 6 would have been a non-event, useless for political messaging going forward.
wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 21:42 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Dec 2023, 21:50@Horace said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
Of the many symptoms of TDS, one is that sufferers will be unable to think clearly about the fact that, with appropriate security, January 6 would have been a non-event, useless for political messaging going forward.
Now imagine if the most transparently fragile human being ever to have a prominent role in American political life had had a more normal psychological makeup. Think of how much better off the country would be, and the GOP for that matter, not to mention the thousands of individual lives ruined by credulous imbecility.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 21:47 last edited by
The Democrats could conceivably bear some responsibility for the lack of security, but to state that Pelosi is primarily responsible for this shit-show seems to rather be overlooking the big fat orange Republican elephant in the living room.
I know, I know, TDS.
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@Horace said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
Of the many symptoms of TDS, one is that sufferers will be unable to think clearly about the fact that, with appropriate security, January 6 would have been a non-event, useless for political messaging going forward.
Now imagine if the most transparently fragile human being ever to have a prominent role in American political life had had a more normal psychological makeup. Think of how much better off the country would be, and the GOP for that matter, not to mention the thousands of individual lives ruined by credulous imbecility.
wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 22:20 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
@Horace said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
Of the many symptoms of TDS, one is that sufferers will be unable to think clearly about the fact that, with appropriate security, January 6 would have been a non-event, useless for political messaging going forward.
Now imagine if the most transparently fragile human being ever to have a prominent role in American political life had had a more normal psychological makeup. Think of how much better off the country would be, and the GOP for that matter, not to mention the thousands of individual lives ruined by credulous imbecility.
Yes deflection is one way to avoid thinking clearly.
Unlike you, I am able to think clearly about things related to Trump. And I am able to wholeheartedly agree that he would have been better for the country and better for the GOP if he'd been more able to accept the L.
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The Democrats could conceivably bear some responsibility for the lack of security, but to state that Pelosi is primarily responsible for this shit-show seems to rather be overlooking the big fat orange Republican elephant in the living room.
I know, I know, TDS.
wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 22:21 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
The Democrats could conceivably bear some responsibility for the lack of security,
That's actually more than most Trump haters would be able to admit. Thank you.
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@jon-nyc said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
@Horace said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
Of the many symptoms of TDS, one is that sufferers will be unable to think clearly about the fact that, with appropriate security, January 6 would have been a non-event, useless for political messaging going forward.
Now imagine if the most transparently fragile human being ever to have a prominent role in American political life had had a more normal psychological makeup. Think of how much better off the country would be, and the GOP for that matter, not to mention the thousands of individual lives ruined by credulous imbecility.
Yes deflection is one way to avoid thinking clearly.
Unlike you, I am able to think clearly about things related to Trump. And I am able to wholeheartedly agree that he would have been better for the country and better for the GOP if he'd been more able to accept the L.
wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 22:27 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Dec 2023, 22:27@Horace said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
@jon-nyc said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
@Horace said in Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund talks about Jan 6:
Of the many symptoms of TDS, one is that sufferers will be unable to think clearly about the fact that, with appropriate security, January 6 would have been a non-event, useless for political messaging going forward.
Now imagine if the most transparently fragile human being ever to have a prominent role in American political life had had a more normal psychological makeup. Think of how much better off the country would be, and the GOP for that matter, not to mention the thousands of individual lives ruined by credulous imbecility.
Yes deflection is one way to avoid thinking clearly.
Hence the popularity of threads like these among our Trump-voting members.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 22:50 last edited by
A large group of Trump supporters harmlessly invade the Capitol, exercising their constitutional rights to wander around the building, doing absolutely nothing wrong.
And it's the Democrats fault.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 22:57 last edited by
I do believe Trump said "peacefully".
I do find that in marked comparison to the Floyd riots.