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Ivermectin, again...

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Can docs prescribe off-label?

    That seems to be the underlying issue.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Can docs prescribe off-label?

      That seems to be the underlying issue.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

      Can docs prescribe off-label?

      That seems to be the underlying issue.

      Yes, they can, and do. Goodness knows, I've given drugs off-label. And, as you say, that's what this case is about.

      But, because you can doesn't mean you should.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Jolly
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        #5

        True.

        But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          True.

          But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #6

          @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

          I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

          Yah, let the insurance companies decide!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by Jolly
            #7

            I hold them in almost as much contempt as the government.

            Most missed the actual point of much of the article I posted recently, where it stated that a large portion of senior medical debt is due to insurance companies manipulating the provider/payer system.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG George K

              @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

              I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

              Yah, let the insurance companies decide!

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              @George-K said in Ivermectin, again...:

              Yah, let the insurance companies decide!

              i.e. Our current system of death panels.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                True.

                But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

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                @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

                Supposedly your "others" do not include pregnancy termination or gender change related treatments.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                  But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

                  Supposedly your "others" do not include pregnancy termination or gender change related treatments.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #10

                  @Axtremus said in Ivermectin, again...:

                  @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                  But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

                  Supposedly your "others" do not include pregnancy termination or gender change related treatments.

                  The first rule of medicine is do no harm.

                  I don't consider murder and mutilation valid medical treatments.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    True.

                    But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

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                    @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                    True.

                    But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

                    OK, but how do we stop crazy doctors prescribing stuff that doesn't make any sense?

                    At some point somebody has to be able to say "Hey, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing", even if he does have a medical degree.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                      True.

                      But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

                      OK, but how do we stop crazy doctors prescribing stuff that doesn't make any sense?

                      At some point somebody has to be able to say "Hey, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing", even if he does have a medical degree.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Ivermectin, again...:

                      @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                      True.

                      But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

                      OK, but how do we stop crazy doctors prescribing stuff that doesn't make any sense?

                      At some point somebody has to be able to say "Hey, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing", even if he does have a medical degree.

                      How do you stop them? You don't.

                      If they are too far out of line the tort system will catch up with them.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #13

                        And most of our legal resources are tied up with the various Trump cases.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Axtremus said in Ivermectin, again...:

                          @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                          But in this and others, I do not want Ax's benevolent government dictating medical treatment.

                          Supposedly your "others" do not include pregnancy termination or gender change related treatments.

                          The first rule of medicine is do no harm.

                          I don't consider murder and mutilation valid medical treatments.

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                          @Jolly said in Ivermectin, again...:

                          I don't consider murder and mutilation valid medical treatments.

                          So you want the benevolent government to prescribe what qualifies as a “valid medical treatment.”

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                            Did you get your ass whipped much as a kid?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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